Interesting—that design dates to the early days of cycling and certainly wasn’t 
invented by Specialized. My Pashley Guvnor, built a few years ago per plans 
drawn up by Pashley in the 1920s, has the same basic design:

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0181/8445/products/pashley_guvnor_bells_bicycles_2_1024x1024.jpg?v=1451339274
 
<https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0181/8445/products/pashley_guvnor_bells_bicycles_2_1024x1024.jpg?v=1451339274>
 

The seatstays have the same basic design, which from the back looks like a wine 
bottle—the straight part is the neck of the bottle at the top. 

--Eric N
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> On Apr 20, 2017, at 3:48 AM, Garth <garth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Here is a pic of an 83 Stumpy like the one I had 
> http://bikes.aberrance.com/stumpjumper/20080525CleanedUp/images/20080525Stumpy-020.jpg
> As you can see it is very unique, I have not seen anyone configure the stays 
> like this again. What it self evident in the pic is the straight part is just 
> where the rings needed to be, then it bowed out. There is no chance of any 
> chain suck on these, and it was not until I got a Bombadil did I even know 
> what it was. 
> 
> I have not seen any of the long stay Riv frames in person, but I too have 
> wondered if they do not lend themselves to being straighter near the bb 
> shell, lending to being able to use cranksets maybe the other frames could 
> not, like the AT. 
> 
> If you really think the 127mm with or w/wo spacers will work for you I have a 
> barely used UN72 127 that I used with my Stumpy that I could send you. I have 
> had it laying around since I sold it and well, it is just sitting there 
> waiting for some good use. No charge either.  Btw, I use spacers with 
> cartridges all the time, I have either a 1mm or 1.5mm on my Bombadil right 
> now.  
> 
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