I remember the article that Mike mentioned. I think the point was that Riv bikes already have good clearances, so why bother (not to mention BB height issues...) In the early days of RBW's promotion of 650B, a lot of people were converting 27/700 bikes for no clear reason, since many of the conversions already had ample tire-space (many 1970s bikes had loads of room). Of course, if you have an early 80s Italian racing bike or something else with minimal clearance, then there are clear benefits to the conversion. We did many of these, which were well received by their owners, and made the bikes much more useful and interesting.
On Jan 13, 10:17 am, Mike <mjawn...@gmail.com> wrote: > Jim makes a really good point here. The Rambouillet works fine with > fenders and 32s so why bother with 650b. If you don't use fenders you > can fit a tire up to 37mm. There was an article or note in one of the > RR, I can't remember which one, where Grant mentioned that their bikes > weren't good for 650b conversion. > > --mike > > On Jan 13, 7:42 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <thill....@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I've seen 650b Rambouillets: my question is "why"? You can already > > fender a 700x32ish, which is ample for most road riding. If running > > bigger tires is a priority, there are bikes designed to do that with a > > lot less hassle. > > > On Jan 13, 6:39 am, Larry Powers <lapower...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > If I recall correctly the Rambo is not a could candidate for a 650b > > > conversion becuase it has low bottom bracket to start with. Someone let > > > me know if this is not true. > > > > Larry Powers > > > > Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain > > > > > Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:29:41 -0800 > > > > Subject: [RBW] Re: Feeling Abondoned > > > > From: charles_v...@hotmail.com > > > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > > > > Couldn't you just convert to 650B wheels on the Ram and use longer > > > > reach brakes? You would get more clearance and a wide tire selection. > > > > Not sure on the bottom bracket height however. > > > > > On Jan 12, 3:40 pm, Larry Powers <lapower...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I took a nice tour on my Atlantis this past summer, I commute daily > > > > > on my QB, my wife and I toured France on our Rambouillet and Bleriot > > > > > (I also completed PBP on my Rambo) and my wife likes to tool around > > > > > our neighborhood on her Glorius. We like Riv bikes and have bought > > > > > our share. I know things change and can understand moving production > > > > > to Taiwan because of the exchange rate. I guess the thing that > > > > > pushed my buttons was to read that the Ruffy Tuffy/Rolly Polly tires > > > > > will be discontinued. When I bought my Rambouillet it was touted as > > > > > unique because it could use a large 28mm tire with fenders. Ruffy > > > > > Tuffy tires have been my tire of choice for this bike and now Riv has > > > > > abandoned both the bike and the tire. I believe that the Homer > > > > > Hilson is the bike that Grant really intended to build when the > > > > > developed the Rambouillet. But the parts available at the time > > > > > placed limits on the design. The availability of longer and wider > > > > > brakes finally allowed the Hilson to be built. I like the Hilson but > > > > > having a Rambo and an Atlantis it is hard to justify the purchase of > > > > > a bike in the middle. > > > > > > Change is inevitable and I hope that Riv continues to sell Lugged > > > > > steel bike for a long time. I am very glad that I have my bikes > > > > > because the new Riv's with limited sizes and sloping top tubes are > > > > > not as close to my vision of what a bike should be. Hopefully they > > > > > will maintain a few frames like the Hilson for those of us who > > > > > appreciate a more classic shaped frame. If the economy improves > > > > > maybe I will buy a Hilson or a Roadeo because I would really like to > > > > > ride Brevets on a 32mm tire. I also hope that they do not > > > > > completely forget those of us who supported them in the early years. > > > > > > I think I will pour a nice glass of wine, sit in the garage and > > > > > admire my bikes. > > > > > > Larry Powers > > > > > > Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM > > > > > protection.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email > > > service.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/
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