Ya, Erl's conversion is pretty sweet; it's what motivated my temporary 
conversion.  I had 42mm hetres on my sidepull romulus when I converted it 
and still had good space for fenders.  Converting dropped the bb about 5mm 
which i (over) compensated with by a 10mm reduction in crank length. Works 
great. I just switched back because it was redundant with my saluki.

Sky in new west 

On Thursday, March 23, 2017 at 5:04:31 PM UTC-7, Will wrote:
>
> I have an Atlantis. So that's my backstory. 
>
> I'd get 650B wheels for the Rom. If you could run 38s with fenders, you'd 
> be in pretty good shape for commutes. 
>
> On Thursday, March 23, 2017 at 10:35:57 AM UTC-5, Jonathan Donehower wrote:
>>
>> This is my first post.  I have been commuting regularly now for over a 
>> year and ready to buy a new bike with my wife's support. We will be going 
>> to one car and VW will partially subsidize this purchase with the Diesel 
>> Scandal settlement.  I am struggling to decide which model to buy and was 
>> wondering what advice you all might have.  I am debating between the Sam, 
>> Joe and Clem.  I realize there is probably no bad choice.   I currently 
>> have two bikes.  I have a Rivendell Romulus I purchased from a friend but 
>> it isn't my first choice for commuting.  I also converted a Jamis Nova 
>> Steel bike (probably similar to the cross check) to a more relaxed ride 
>> with the Soma Oxford Bars.  I enjoy the bike but thinking I want the 
>> flexibility of larger wheels, and a more upright position.  Currently 
>> running 32 mm. I don't really go on bike tours since riding the Oregon 
>> Coast with the wrong equipment 9 years back but as my kids grow up, I would 
>> like that flexibility. It would mostly be for weekend rides, fire roads and 
>> primarily commuting.
>>
>> The Joe Appaloosa seems to be a reflect Grant's latest thinking on bikes. 
>>  It seems like a fantastic bike but perhaps overkill for what I ride.  I am 
>> not sure I need 45 mm tires and 52 CS.  But then I think perhaps I should 
>> just go all in on the Rivendell philosophy instead of taking baby steps. 
>>  The Joe seems like the heir to the Atlantis reflecting what Grant has 
>> learned over the last decade.
>>
>> The Clem Smith Jr seems like a wonderful bike and very similar to the 
>> Joe.  I can't figure out after reading the lists what the real differences 
>> would be beyond lugs.  I have some concern with the sizing.  My PBH of 85cm 
>> would put me at a 52 in the Clem (55 in the Joe).  I am at the top end of 
>> the sizing.  I am 6 ft with shorter legs. In fact the 52 would fit both my 
>> wife at 5'3" and me at 6 ft.  Logically I realize this bike would fit my 
>> needs but then emotionally I got back to the Joe.
>>
>> I am also looking at the Sam Hillborne seems like it might be a good 
>> compromise.  it takes fat wheels, good for light touring (probably heavy 
>> touring by my standards) and allows for a more relaxed fit.  I also think I 
>> would be losing long-term flexibility and I weigh 210 lbs, and might be 
>> better off with the more robust bike.  
>>
>> Again I realize there is probably no wrong choice but would love to hear 
>> your thoughts.  I love reading the forum, I really appreciate the Rivendell 
>> philosophy and excited to take a big jump in.  
>>
>>
>>

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