I would say the Ram went in two directions, and not terribly far in either: The AHH, and the Rodeo. The main difference with the AHH is bigger tires, though it may be that even the Rodeo can clear more than the Ram. The Rodeo chainstays are about the same as Ram, but ever so slightly steeper seat angle. And of course the AHH has chainstays a couple centimeters longer than the Ram, and is equally rackable without p-clamping. I would take a guess that the tubesets of the Ram and AHH are similar if not the same, while the Rodeo is a touch thinner. Disclaimer: I've only ridden one of these, and not for very long. So, yeah. With steel the OLD is not so critical, but I believe it is 132 for Ram, 135 for AHH, 130 for Rodeo. All in all, the AHH probably carries more Rambouillet DNA than the Rodeo (which IIRC was designed with a bit of help from Waterford).
On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 at 5:12:47 PM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote: > > The Road Standard had smaller tire clearance due to short-reach brakes. > The Roadeo specs medium-reach brakes, and it will fit a 700 x 36 tire > comfortably. > > My Road Standard also has upper rack eyelets on the seat stays, where the > Roadeo does not. Of course, you can mount a rear rack to the Roadeo using > a diving board to the brake bolt, or clamps. > > I'm pretty sure the Roadeo has 130 mm OLD. > > > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Steve Palincsar <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> >> >> On 02/28/2017 04:38 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: >> >>> What could you do on a Rambouillet that you can't do on a Roadeo? >>> >> >> 1) you could buy it for under a thousand dollars, IIRC vs over twice that >> for the Roadeo >> >> 2) the Rambouillet had seat stay rack mounts. I can't tell for sure, but >> it doesn't look like the Roadeo has them. Riv's web site says of the >> Roadeo "Basically, it's not a "light touring" bike, or anything of the >> sort," while the Rambouillet did that job pretty well by all accounts. >> (Now that doesn't say you couldn't clamp on a rack and go touring with the >> Roadeo, people did that with road racers during the Bicentennial, but "Just >> Because You Can Doesn't Mean You Should.") >> >> 3) use a 135mm OLN rear wheel? (at least I think I remember the >> Rambouillet came with a 132mm go-either-way spacing) >> >> >> In my mind, those two models are functionally identical, and you can buy >>> a Roadeo if you want a Rivendell and want a 'not-dumb' stripped down road >>> bike. Rivendell also selling country bikes has not displaced the nice road >>> bike. >>> >> >> Pretty much, isn't the Roadeo the functional equivalent of the old Road >> Standard also? >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> <javascript:>. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
