for me it was always on Challente open tubulars (maybe a 3 or 4 times 
total).  

I haven't had it happen in 5 years and my tire-mounting algorithm now 
includes lowering the tire pressure below 20 psi, until I can push the bead 
in and see rim strip.  I go all the way around the tire on both sides and 
make sure I don't see tube.  


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