There was a thread on the iBob list not long ago and one person voiced a strong 
preference for a particular model of the Randonneur--they do come in many 
versions.  Worth checking the archives perhaps--it wasn't very long ago.
Steve "wishing for a Pugsley after the 7" snow storm last night" Frederick, 
East Lansing, MI

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From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
[mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Bill M.
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 8:41 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: Vittoria Randonneur


Vittoria's sizing is a little misleading.  The 37-622 size is also
labeled 700 x 35c, and that's closer to the actual width.  I have the
700 x 35c/37-622 mm Randonneur Pro's on my Miyata 1000.  They measure
34 mm wide on narrow Velocity Aerohead rims. and would probably make a
true 35 on a wider rim.  The 37 may refer to the height.

There are a lot of different versions in the Randonneur series.
Vittoria claims 640 gm for the  35 mm Randonneur and the Randonneur
Cross, 450 gm for the Rando Cross Pro, and 430 gm for the Rando Pro.
There's also a new Randonneur Hyper at 390 gm, and more heavy duty
versions ranging from 700 to over 800 gm.  You have to know which
version you're getting, and which the commenters' experiences are
based on!

As for my Rando Pro's, I like them.  I think they roll as well as the
32 mm Paselas I have on my Riv Road, but they flat less easily and
have reflective sidewalls.  I would not be surprised if the heavier
versions did not roll or ride as well as the Pro's and I think that
has added to the mixed reviews of these tires.  When I wear out the
Paselas, I might look for a pair of 32 mm Hypers as a replacement
(28's would be a better fit, if they made them).  I suspect they'll
give the Marathon Supremes a run for their money.  I had 50 mm
Supremes on my Riv M/E when I sold it, and thought they were OK but
not amazing tires.

The fixie crowd has apparently latched onto the non-Pro Randos as
tires that will withstand lots of skid stops.  Probably not a priority
for Riv list readers!

Bill


On Jan 7, 9:34 am, Eric Norris <campyonly...@me.com> wrote:
> Has anybody used these tires? How do they compare to Paselas?
>
> -- Eric Norriswww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.com
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