Certainly agree. Tire size is in scope here along with front end geometry
and I guess I'm thinking that the Ogre is closer to the Troll and Hillborne
closer to the Hunq, but I could also be making an idiotic assumption,
wouldn't be the first time.

On Monday, October 3, 2016, David Stein <[email protected]> wrote:

> Jeff - I hear you point on the Sam Hillborne but that's not a totally fair
> comparison to the hunqapillar. The tire width alone on the hunqapillar
> makes it much more capable on rough terrain then the Sam (I've ridden both
> on similar trails). Plus with the new 650b hunqs you can get an even larger
> diameter (for the small sizes anyway which were 26"). I was the first to
> chime in and still feel the hunq isn't the best on twisty, rooty, rocky,
> technical single track, but it's totally fine on everything else. Would be
> curious to see how you felt on a hunq on the same trails (vs. the troll) if
> you ever get the chance ;)
>
> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 9:07 AM, Bob K. <[email protected]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
>
>> Personally, I think small-frame 29ers look a bit silly and strangely
>> proportioned, so if you're a S/M as opposed to a L/XL, I'd go with the
>> Troll over the Ogre. I'm sure that any of the aforementioned bikes would
>> perform well for what you're seeking, but keep in mind there are tire
>> clearance differences. Someone on this list told me that he fit Surly
>> Extraterrestrial 2.5s on his Hunq. The Troll fits 26"x3". Ogre is somewhere
>> in the 29 x 2.8" ballpark.
>>
>> Bob K. in Baltimore
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