Both bikes would work in the "all-arounder" concept, and both will give you an underbiking experience pending how gnarly the single track and trails are that you may ride, but I'd suggest based on the options for disc brakes and various frame and fork gear mounting helpers, the Ogre will take you further before the terrain outstrips its capabilities.
I have a Troll, the Ogre's 26" wheeled brother, and I've taken my Sam Hillborne on some gnarly stuff that I've envisioned the Troll not breaking a sweat over, while I really had to proceed over-cautiously with the Hillborne. I've likewise had the Troll out on terrain that I wouldn't dare take the Hillborne without resorting to some dismounting and bike-shouldering. Granted the Hillborne is not a Hunq. The Ogre clearly has none of the retro/beautiful bike aesthetic that the Hunq has, but I daresay with all of it's utilitarian features, the Ogre looks like a pretty smart bike in person. That being said, Surly recently overhauled the Troll and the Ogre's cousin, the Karate Monkey, with some new modern features that I don't think that the Ogre is slated to get for this model year: through axles with Boost compatible spacing, room for wider tires and the Troll now has a non-suspension corrected front end. If you're a retro grouch you may not care about these features but if you're buying your last bike, and the Ogre is your pick, I might wait to see if these features make it into next year's model. I've owned a few Riv's, and some have felt like magic all the time, while some only have that feel in specific conditions. If I were able to take a Hunq out for a spin and it had that unique Riv magic feel that aligned with my cycling style, it'd likely be a winner here. If I closed my eyes and it didn't feel terribly different from the Ogre or, for that matter, any old steel mountain/touring bike from the late 80's early 90's then I'd likely give the Ogre the nod. I guess one more thing... I dare say that the Riv's striking good looks have been a detriment in some cases- pending where I want to ride and potentially lock up, I just can't take a Riv, but I never question taking my Surly. -Jeff Silver Spring, MD On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 8:39 PM, R Olson <[email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > I'm trying to decide between a riv hunq or a surly ogre. I want this bike > to be the last one I own and I want to be able to do everything with it - > ride trails/single track, around town, get groceries, etc. Has anyone > owned or ridden either of these? My impressions are as follows: Ogre: > more versatile, stronger/stiffer frame, less expensive, probably doesn't > ride as good, certainly doesn't look as good. Hunq: great looks, ride, > very expensive, probably more comfortable to ride. I'd appreciate your > thoughts. Thanks! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch%[email protected]');> > . > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
