On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 5:37:24 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>
> On 09/15/2016 11:45 PM, Clayton.sf wrote: 
> > 40t cogs are the domain of 1x gearing IMO, unless it is an academic 
> exercise or you are schlepping too much much gear. 22x40 - you would likely 
> be able to walk as fast. And... why not use at triple at that point. 
> Personally I like short cage derailers for dirt or none at all and don't go 
> beyond 36 in a cassette. 
>
> Triples aren't an option because 
> 1) there aren't many, if any, made for the type of bottom brackets used 
> on carbon road bikes; 2) integrated brake/shift levers don't do triples 
> (either at all, in the case of the higher group levels, or very 
> successfully); 3) even if you could change crank sets you are still 
> stuck with a 50T large chain ring on most of these bikes because the 
> front derailleur is mounted on a "braze-on" bracket whose adjustment 
> slot is made such that you can't lower the front derailleur at all.   
> Along with that 50T big ring comes a 34T small ring. 
>
> Boy, this is a real generalization that isn't really true!  Well, at least 
> with Campy equipment. 



First, triple crank. Yes, for 2016, Campy still offers a triple crank:
>

 
http://www.campagnolo.com/US/en/CampyWorld/Product/new_triple_transimissions_athenacentaur_and_veloce

Second, integrated shifters and triple - Campy ergo levers are still triple 
compatible. In fact, the current Athena is triple compatible with 11 speed:

http://www.campagnolo.com/US/en/Support/is_the_triple_crankset_compatible_with_an_11_speed_groupset

Third, agree that Campy triple crank gearing are 30/42/53 or 30/39/52:

http://www.campagnolo.com/WW/en/Components/athena_power_torque_11x3_crankset

But I believe the 30t small ring is still 74mm bcd, so you can actually 
substitute a smaller ring down to 24t? 

Also, it looks like Shimano still offers triples in Ultegra, 105, Claris 
(what's that?!) and Tiagra.  However, they are only for their 10 speed 
groups. Haven't seen anything for 11 speed, so it may not be available. 



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