Sure looked to me like she slipped when she hit the center stripe. On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 6:20:50 AM UTC-4, ascpgh wrote: > > When picking tires for that course, I wonder how many considered the > moisture? That section where the Dutch rider went down looked moist, like > from condensing moisture. Back when special compound tires were just > landing in stores and folks buying them were finding out themselves that > their oddly high traction had oddly huge losses of such in wet conditions, > not from warning labels on the packaging. > > I was behind a rider on those early grey compound Specialized tires on a > switchbacking descent of a mountain (AR Hwy 74, riding the now titled > "Jasper Disaster" route) where in the lower half of the elevation drop the > canopy was very full over the turns and a trickle of water ran across the > apex of the turn. It was exactly like the images you see of racers in a > city street corner who cross the paint of a crosswalk if slightly wet: > flick, slam!. one smooth, accelerating motion to the ground. > > I didn't notice special tires at Rio, but I'm sure racers don't show their > cards with colored treads. That road, under canopy and a descent from a > "jungle" makes me think with a high dew point, an area under cover from the > sun like that would condensate frequently, and some moss/algae would exist, > an like a wooden deck with the same problem, just add water to see an > amazing loss of traction. > > Andy Cheatham > Pittsburgh > On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 3:08:03 PM UTC-4, franklyn wrote: >> >> On a cobbled course like Paris Roubaix, some pro racers ride 28mm >> tubulars--not 42mm 650b Compass tires, but not 23mm racing tubulars either. >> Pro racers can also change bikes mid-race. Chris Froome changed bike when >> they began the second circuit during the Olymplic men's road race. Given >> what happened to the Men's race a day ahead (when two out of the three in >> the leading group crashed on the descent and the third lost the lead in the >> final meters), I think it is a highly reasonable strategy for the women >> racers to switch to bike sporting 28mm tubulars with lower pressure for the >> descent to maintain speed while staying safe. But none did it, and a racer >> in the lead group crashed again! >> >> Jan did have access to wind tunnel in his early tire tests, not sure if >> the resource is available to him and BQ anymore. I don't recall the wide >> tires being disadvantaged because of aerodynamics in his tests. Jan's >> premise was always that on smooth as baby's face tarmac, skinny and >> high-pressured tires maintain their advantage, but on pavement of everyday >> (and lesser) quality, then the dampening from the wider tires to prevent >> vibration loss win out. I don't think he rides tires only because he likes >> them, but because they offer real performance advantages in the conditions >> described. Having been to Brazil and the very highway that the race was on, >> I recall that pavement quality is uneven at best. I wouldn't be surprised >> if someone riding high-quality 700cx32mm tires can maintain the same >> performance as when they ride 23mm tubulars. >> >> But of course race bikes have to be constructed to fit tires that wide >> (they already do up to 28mm for Paris-Roubaix) >> >> Franklyn >> >> On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 11:26:55 AM UTC-7, Ryan Fleming wrote: >>> >>> Well, Patrick, it was a beautiful ride and a very gallant effort... and >>> in defeat she was extremely gracious..I was cheering for her and gutted >>> about the young Dutchwoman Van Vleuten's crash. That's why I feel bike >>> racing is an epic sport in the truest sense of the word and I still >>> continue to watch it despite all the doping BS...and in the Olympics >>> despite the noise and BS you still have these profoundly uplifting >>> moments. Maybe the Olympics give us a chance to get in touch with our >>> better natures. >>> >>> On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 12:23:44 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: >>>> >>>> This WSJ article by Jason Gay does a great job of capturing the bike >>>> race in a stunningly Rivendelian spirit, as evidenced by the Headline: >>>> "Mara Abbott's Beautiful Ride in Rio": >>>> >>>> http://www.wsj.com/articles/mara-abbotts-beautiful-ride-in-rio-1470615782?mod=rss_Sports >>>> >>>> With abandon, >>>> Patrick >>>> >>>> On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 10:57:11 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Aha, the Olympics -- those things. I forgot about them. Unfortunately, >>>>> no TV ... Am trying to catch glimpses on youtube. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Patrick: I've been watching on NBColympics.com. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
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