Stand-over clearance issues aside, the problem I've seen with sticking too
closely with some of Riv's sizing recommendations is that it can put me on a
bike with a longer top tube than I'd like.  Sure, the bike "fits" by using a
shorter stem, but weight distribution then becomes an issue.

All FWIW, ATMO, etc, etc.


> From: Doug Peterson <dougpn...@cox.net>
> Reply-To: <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:39:20 -0800 (PST)
> To: RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Correct Bombadil size...
> 
> Rene:
> 
> After all the data points regarding the bigger size, here's one vote
> for going smaller.  I understand Riv's sizing system and philosophy,
> but chose to go a size down from their recommendation on my Atlantis
> (58 cm vs 61 cm).  Coming up on 7 happy years of riding, I've never
> given it a second thought.  There's actually some overlap on PBHs and
> frame sizes.  If possible, see if they have a 56 cm you can try on for
> size before going to the effort of completely changing.  Bikes can
> always be made a bit larger (within reason!) but they are tough to
> shrink.
> 
> dougP
> 
> On Dec 17, 9:08 pm, Rene Sterental <orthie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> My 60cm Bombadil is finally finished (had too much work and family related
>> stuff these last two weeks). I will post pictures tomorrow. However, as soon
>> as I straddled it while building it, I realized I had significantly less
>> standover clearance than I do on my 61cm Homer. I can still lift both wheels
>> what appears to be around 1 inch, haven't really measured, but when I stand
>> over the bike with both feet on the ground, I can feel the top tube way up
>> "there". The bike is currently built with Specialized El Capitan Control 2.2
>> front/2.0 rear tires for a full MTB experience.
>> 
>> Since it was raining during the weekend and I was swamped with work and
>> family, I was only able to take it out for a ride on Tuesday's commute to
>> work via bike and Caltrain. I rode it for a total of around 8 miles split up
>> in four legs. I'll post more details when I have more time, but my concerns
>> with the standover clearance persisted, so I e-mailed Mark @ Rivendell and
>> spoke with Keven today. They both feel that based on my measured PBH, the
>> 60cm Bombadil frame is the right size, but if I feel it's too big, they will
>> set me up with a new 56cm frame. It's great to know that they will stand by
>> me and take care of my in this situation.
>> 
>> Today I commuted with the Homer, and even though barely a month and a half
>> ago it seemed like a huge frame (my conversion to the Rivendell fit
>> philosophy), compared to the Bombadil I felt I had lots of clearance and of
>> course, they both handle different.
>> 
>> I'm taking the Bombadil to Rivendell tomorrow so Mark and Keven can check my
>> fit and together, we can decide if it is indeed the right size for me, or if
>> I'll fit best on the 56cm. Standover height on the Bombadil 60 is about 2 cm
>> higher than on the Homer 61. Everyone agrees that you probably need a little
>> more clearance on a mountain bike than on a road bike, but what is really
>> the minimum clearance?
>> 
>> Anyway, I'll update the group on the decision we take tomorrow and will
>> submit photos of the complete bike. Going to a 56 frame will mean another
>> wait for it to be painted (minor annoyance), but also a new wheelset from
>> Rich, new tires, and no exchanging wheels between the Homer and the
>> Bombadil.
>> 
>> What is the feeling regarding standover clearance and minimum clearance?
>> 
>> René
>> 
>> PS.- The fender question is now on hold until the frame size issue is
>> cleared...
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