Zed -- thanks for that review. From my point of view, at any rate, it's one of the most informative and helpful reviews of a Riv model that I've read.
I am very chuffed that you and so many others find the newish "cruiser" style of Rivendell bikes, far from limiting energetic riding, actually promoting it. I started riding "seriously" about the same time Eddy Merckx went professional -- 1969 -- and I've long had a bias toward old-fashioned road race bikes, like the 1973 Motobecane Grande Record that I once owned: clearance for at least 35s and probably 37s; 45 cm chainstays to end of long dropouts; light 531 throughout. (I used this as an errand fixie, and carried up to 45 lb on it without real problems.) I've also owned 5 Rivendells -- 3 custom roads, a Sam Hill, and a Ram. I presently have my two later ('99 and '03) custom Roads, and my vague idea or "theme" for these was these old, high clearance racing bikes. I've also found long since that my left palm hurts after a few miles with any but a drop bar. But your review, and that of many others on this list, is beginning to convince me that Grant has hit a sweet spot of design with sweep back bars, long tts, and long chainstays. I'd really like to test ride a Clem or Appaloosa. So, once again, thanks for your excellent review. 2 addenda, or rather addita: 1. Compass tires are so wonderful that it really is a shame to depreciate their ride quality with liners. Please consider using Orange Seal in your tubes. 2. I urge everyone to keep the wonderfullness of drop bars in mind. I personally find them more comfortable than any other sort of bar -- I've *not* use the Albastache, Bosco, and all the other post 2010 or so sweepbacks that Rivendell has produced, so I am keeping an open mind about these. But drop bars have been around for well over 100 years for very good reasons, and some of the more recent resuscitations produced by Compass and Velo Orange -- I have particularly in mind the Maes Parallel and the Rando type bars (VO's nomenclature is somewhat different than Compasses) are exceptionally and superlatively comfortable. I use the Maes Parallel or VO copy on all 3 of my customs (the 3d is a Matthews "road bike for dirt). Please keep in mind (all you who read this) that drop bars can be superlatively comfortable if well designed and well positioned. On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm in the middle of your review, and I think it is very well done, but I > interrupt myself here to say: > > DON'T USE TIRE LINERS!!! My God, man! No tire liners on *Compass > tires!!!!* Use Orange Seal in your tubes instead. > > I very briefly used Mr Tuffys with non-Tourguard Paselas, and after about > 1 commute, took them out -- I could feel the drag. > > More in the offing. > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Zed Martinez <iamzedmarti...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> After switching from my original albastache build to boscos a while back >> and getting some more mileage and longer rides under me, I keep meaning to >> do a proper medium-term write-up on the Clem and just kept being too busy >> to do it. I finally had a quiet evening to sit down and apparently I had a >> lot more to say about my past 7 months with the Clem than I expected, so, >> I'll spare everyone the wall of text, but if you're 4,000 words curious >> about Riv's economy bruiser, boy do I have a blog post for you. >> >> The short version is: I probably could have just titled this 'How I Got >> Over My Own Hubris and Learned to Love the Bosco' >> >> http://zedmartinez.com/2016/06/rivendell-clem-smith-jr/ >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > > -- > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. > Other professional writing services. > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ > www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten > ************************************************************************** > ************** > *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a > circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and > individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu > > *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the > world revolves.) *Carthusian motto > > *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart > > *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle > > > -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. 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