Just to give a counter point to Richard's off-road observations, I have found long chainstays to be wonderful off-road. Now I have not ridden a bike with 21 inch CS like the 60cm Cheviot, but I have ridden 17 to 19 inch CS bikes. I have also ridden Surly bikes with rear dropouts/drop-ins where you can adjust your CS length. I have found my climbing ability increases with CS length, increasing my ability to keep the front wheel in contact with the ground. Interestingly long, 19 inch CS do not inhibit tight technical descents. I would agree with Richard that CS length works in tandem with other geometry components. I wrote up a review of the long CS Jones Plus bike on IBOB. https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/internet-bob/review$20of$20Jones$20Plus/internet-bob/v92_t69-FYQ/Mvy7_9-T1WkJ And Jeff Jones gives a great talk on the design of that bike https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMkQ7z9Gi7c
On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 5:19:45 PM UTC-6, Richard Rios wrote: > > On road they are fine. Very laid back feeling, smooth and what others > mentioned. Off road I found I didn't like them so much especially if paired > with a long top tube and non swept back bars. My impression was it made it > to hard to get the front wheel up to go over obstacles so I ended up > plowing through stuff and it had the reverse effect of esentially making > the ride rougher...just my .02 impressions based off a long CS proto > hunqapillar. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.