On road they are fine. Very laid back feeling, smooth and what others mentioned. Off road I found I didn't like them so much especially if paired with a long top tube and non swept back bars. My impression was it made it to hard to get the front wheel up to go over obstacles so I ended up plowing through stuff and it had the reverse effect of esentially making the ride rougher...just my .02 impressions based off a long CS proto hunqapillar.
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