All true. I rode GKs on my road bike for a long time. There's nothing wrong 
with them, and they are certainly cheaper than new pedals.  I prefer the 
reversible Shimano pedals, now.  same ease of use, with any shoe, and added 
benefit of the cleats.  With my release settings so low, I snap out with very 
little effort. On my commuter bike, I use standard rat trap pedals, no straps.  
I have moderate climbs to and from the office, and have often thought about 
mounting Power grips to those pedals, but haven't.  I gave my Grip Kings to my 
son.  He uses them sans straps and loves them.  I'm not likely to return to use 
of GKs. I'm quite satisfied with the current set ups.

RS

--- On Tue, 12/15/09, Bruce <fullylug...@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Bruce <fullylug...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [RBW] Grip Kings and Numb Feet
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 9:14 AM

Ray:
 The note in my post re:Grip Kings and Power Grips assumed no modifications 
made. For touring, I leave the reflectors in, along with the hi-vis triangle 
and the trouser reflector bands. Being seen is a good thing out on the back 
roads.  I disagree with your note on foot removing from the straps. It is 
easier to get out straps than cleats. Or perhaps you had your straps tighter 
than I wear mine. As another poster pointed out, added strap benefits are 
the usability of any street shoe and the freedom to slide your foot around on 
the pedal. You can push with the ball of your foot, the arch over the spindle 
as Dave mentioned, or with your heels closer to center which is great for going 
up
 hills.
Tailwinds...
From: Ray Shine <r.sh...@sbcglobal.net>
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 10:51:31 AM
Subject: Re: [RBW] Grip Kings and Numb Feet

Steve -- I should have added that Power Grips DO MOUNT to GripKing pedals.  
Despite what some other posters are saying, mine were mounted quite well with 
just minor alterations. For instance, you must remove the reflectors from each
 pedal, and use a plastic spacer on the strap end side.  I might have some pix 
of the set up. If I find any, I'll post them. 

The other thing I'd like t point out about the Power Grips is that to remove 
your foot -- let's say the right foot -- you need to push the heel out then 
pull the foot back to free the shoe from the strap.  That is the exact same 
movement you do to release from a cleated pedal. There's really no difference.

Ray

--- On Tue, 12/15/09, Bruce <fullylug...@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Bruce <fullylug...@yahoo.com>

...  I've been pedaling the past 6 months with nothing at all, which is how 
Grant
 recommends, but just this weekend put the power grips back on. They just work 
for me. They also work with many other pedals, but not Grip Kings....  








      

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