What's Steve's favorite Riv-bashing subject?

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On Jun 6, 2016, at 7:42 PM, Bill Lindsay 
<tapebu...@gmail.com<mailto:tapebu...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Steve retorted:

"No, a thousand times no, that is absolutely not right.  How bloody expensive 
is a fender eyelet or rack mount fitting?  Come on - that stuff isn't expensive 
at all.  But a bicycle meant to take fenders and racks should have fender 
eyelets and rack mounts.  Period.   This has nothing to do with being 
expensive, and everything to do with being fully thought out as opposed to 
half-assed and not finished.   If that is snobbery, then so be it.   The Taylor 
brothers were constructeurs too, and god knows they were as down to earth 
working class as it comes (and I have a great reverence for Jack Taylor 
bicycles)."

Stay on topic, Steve.  We can't insist on debating if you change the subject.  
The subject, as indicated in the subject line of this very post, has nothing to 
do with mounting racks or fenders to bicycle frames.  The subject here is about 
mounting a Wald Basket to a solid front rack.  That's it.  I assert that zip 
ties are perfectly OK for mounting a Wald Basket to a Nitto Front Rack.  If you 
are agreeing with me on that point, then great we agree.

If you want to close on your change of subject, I'm willing to do that.

I agree with you that zipties are insufficient to attach a rack to a bicycle 
frame.  Anybody who does that is dumb, in my opinion.  Any manufacturer who 
recommends it is reckless.

I agree with you that a bike that is designed for fenders should have fender 
eyelets at the dropouts.  Manufacturers who make bikes without fender eyelets 
at the dropouts should not recommend installing fenders.

If you are double-changing the subject off of zipties entirely, and back to 
your favorite Riv-bashing subject, then I just don't know what to do about 
that.  Please don't tell me we are getting back on to your favorite Riv-bashing 
subject AGAIN.....Talk about mind-numbingly boring.  That's even more boring 
than a dark green bicycle.





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