Perhaps Ron means that the "gruppo" thing (or, if you prefer, "groupo") now
more than before locks you in to one manufacturer's thrall, what with the
much greater precision required to shift 11 speeds, pre-attached bb
spindles, and the like.

Me, I *do* like groups, at least old ones (SunTour Superbe Pro! Shimano
600! Dura Ace 7410! All but 7100 brake calipers!) for aesthetic reasons,
tho' none of my bikes is full anything.

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 5:59 AM, Scott Henry <[email protected]> wrote:

> "it's just the whole gruppo thing"
>
> That's even more confusing to me.   It's bad when things are designed to
> work well together?   This seems to be a particularly strange part of the
> cycling world.
>
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Ron Mc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> it's just the whole gruppo thing
>>
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