I could articulate the meaning I personally take from the whole Grant/Riv 
thing but I find it more interesting to consider this in a broad sense. 
So rather than clear meaning I see a number of contradictions in the 
messages/meaning/interpretation around Grant/Riv. I haven't taken the time 
to unpack these fully but here are some to ponder...

Simplicity/utility/democracy vs high prices/exclusivity/decoration

Longevity/sustainability/anti-consumerism vs selling/new products/here’s 
why you should buy this new thing/driven by cash flow

One man’s vision/independence/eschew received wisdom and find your own way 
vs cult-like, reverent following


These aren't meant as criticisms, they don't reflect any particular views 
of my own, etc. It's just a brief sketch of some of the meanings I think 
people get from Riv which don't add up to a coherent whole.


I guess you could extend this. What is meaning? How does personal 
interpretation of meaning differ from a shared/group interpretation? Can 
meaning be engineered or is it an emergent thing? How do we reconcile 
conflicting meanings/messages?


Interesting thread - thanks!

Stephen
 

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