This is really a situation for a time-machine.  Two people froze to death 
in Walnut Creek, and while those people were dying, Rivendell had dead 
stock wool on their shelves.  Ideally, we'd go back in time in the 
time-machine and give some warm clothing to those people and prevent them 
dying.  If only...

I see Grant's instinct, and I tend to agree with it, at least somewhat. 
 Living outside is not inherently unacceptable.  Dying because you don't 
have enough clothing or food is unacceptable for a civilized country.  At 
least we can directly help some of these people who live outside to help 
them survive it.  

On the "organization" side, I think I get it.  It is unacceptable to live 
outside.  Don't incentivize living outside by giving stuff to people who 
live outside.  Incentivize moving inside by giving stuff to organizations 
that try to get people inside.  

I can see it both ways, I suppose, but I also think that direct human 
compassion has the value that Deacon pointed out.  Somebody saw me, 
understood me, and was nice to me.  That has value beyond whether that 
person gave me wool, or a sandwich.  Giving your money or goods to an 
organization takes that human interaction out of it.  For many donors, 
that's a good thing.  For many others, that's the reason for showing 
compassion.  

On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 8:18:28 PM UTC-8, Justin August wrote:
>
> No sale. No new models. A whole lot of tears from me reading it. 
>
> Actions like what Grant described are why I'm proud to ride a Riv and why 
> I'll never not have one from here on out. I can't imagine many businesses 
> doing something like this. 
>
> Good Job Grant, way to set an example and have more empathy than business 
> sense. 
>
> -Justin
>
>

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