Aieee! Don't use your saddle to adjust reach! The saddle ought to go where
it ought to go for comfort and efficiency, and everything else situated
with respect to the saddle. I daresay it won't plane if your saddle is in
the wrong place!

I know whereof I speak! Attend to me, children, and learn wisdom. Long,
long ago, I bought my first good road bike, a 1989 *tout 531C* Falcon (tout
Sante', too!). Although I had ridden enthusiastically long before this, I
had only recently begun to read up on the "scientific" bits about bike fit
and cadence and so on -- I think it was about this time I started to read
*Bicycling.* You get the idea.

Anyway, I read about KOPS. I have short femurs. I like a high saddle. I
added (1), (2), and (3) together and ended up with a replacement mountain
bike seatpost for more height, the saddle (original Flite) all the way
*forward* on the rails, and a 140 mm stem.

3 problems. 1) The saddle would slip in the cradle (Logic sp, basically the
Nitto that Riv still sells). But it would slip *forward* and I had to
resort to blue Loctite to keep the cradle still.

2) No torque: I was a young and fit 35, and could move fast even with a
very inefficient position, and I was a 120 rpm spinner at the time, but I
could feel the inefficiency as my foot went over the top of the stroke --
no torque!

3) Lastly, handling was horrible, especially on windy, fast downhill
sweepers. The frame was designed for a rear weight bias -- very short
front-center, long stays -- and I would skip the rear tire when I stood on
hills; and I was scared to go much over 30 mph on downhill curves. And I
daresay that, properly set up, this frame would have suited my physique and
style well.

At any rate, some time after this, Grant told me: Get thee they saddle
back, and raise thy bar and bring thy bar back. And this was done. And LO!
Torque and comfort were realized, with much rejoicing amongst the people.

On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Donald Funke <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have the 38mm compass tires on the Hilsen. It's pretty comfortable. I
> have a 7cm stem on it and it feels a bit of a reach, even with the seat all
> the way forward, to get on the brake hoods where I spend most of my time. I
> agree with the whole planing idea. It does not feel like planing. With all
> my gear it's 33.5 #.
>
>
> On Friday, January 1, 2016 at 6:04:57 PM UTC-7, Donald Funke wrote:
>>
>> I have a 63cm Homer that I enjoy riding for many different surfaces. I
>> have been getting into doing Brevets and considering swapping for a 60cm
>> Rambouillet. The 60cm would fit a bit better and it looks like the geometry
>> is a bit more roady. I like the ability to ride 38s with fenders, but it
>> does at times feel a bit "bulky". Any thoughts? They are both in excellent
>> condition BTW.
>>
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