"The pictures of of John's Toei with the Brooks show a pretty extreme nose-down position"
That was one of many unsuccessful experiments in positioning that saddle. I'm just not comfortable in the crotch of the banana :-) Again, as I emphasized--saddles are a very individual choice. I think if you compare a Brooks and a Berthoud, it's clear which one is better constructed. However, quality is really a secondary consideration. Considering how much time I spend on a bike, even if the Brooks had to be replaced every 2 years because of shoddy construction, I'd use it if it were more comfortable. Luckily the Berthoud works better for my backside. In fact, I was impressed enough to write the review (something I'd never ordinarily bother doing). Your mileage may vary. John On Nov 29, 1:27 pm, RonaTD <teddur...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Ditto on the suggestion for B17 owners to spend time playing with the > tilt if you're having sliding trouble. The right tilt appears to be > very much a function of how upright your position is. More upright, > more nose up. I don't have a particularly upright position - handlebar > tops a bit below saddle on most of my bikes, and I find I need the > nose higher than the tail. The pictures of of John's Toei with the > Brooks show a pretty extreme nose-down position. In my experience, > people are reluctant to bring the nose up as high as it really needs > to be. My wife complained about sliding forward on the B67 on her > Glorius and I ended up raising the nose to what I thought was a > ridiculous amount. "Eureka!" Instant comfort and joy. > > Personally, my biggest problem with B17 saddles is the amount they > warp and twist. > > Ted Durant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.