Steve

You will be pleased to know my Hillborne has a threaded boss on the 
underside of the seatstay bridge, perfectly placed for easy fender 
installation.  My Hillborne has a threaded boss on the trailing edge of its 
kickstand plate, perfectly placed for easy perfect fender line.  All my 
Rivendells have vertical dropouts, which allow me to achieve good 
fenderlines.  I've owned several Rivendells and none of them required a 
wine cork.  So from my perspective "typical" is very good fenderability.  
Not perfect, but very good.  I was pleased to inspect the Appaloosa 
frameset and find an inward facing threaded boss on the seatstay bridge.  I 
hope they are equidistant, as you would hope.  So, not all Rivendells will 
infuriate you the way that one small Atlantis did and continues to do.  I 
can't think of anybody on this group that has gotten as much mileage out of 
badmouthing somebody else's bike than you have out of that one small 
Atlantis.  Maybe all my recent good luck with fenders on Rivendells has 
been the result of your frequent "constructive criticism" of that one small 
Atlantis?  If that's the case, thanks!  

Happy New Year
Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA


On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 2:05:41 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> Significantly more difficult to fender than my George Longstaff Audax 
> Custom.  Of course, that's a custom (made for John Bayley 25 years ago) 
> rather than an off-the-shelf bike, but still.   Both bridges in back are 
> in exactly the correct locations, and the seatstay bridge has a fender 
> mount boss underneath, and the chainstay bridge has one as well.   
> Clearance and versatility are fine things, but honestly, for the 
> chainstay bridge to be over an inch too far forward?  Today?  If Grant 
> says "it isn't hard, you just have to pay attention," should we take 
> that as evidence that he is not paying attention? 
>
> On 12/29/2015 04:47 PM, William deRosset wrote: 
> > Dear Steve, 
> > 
> > Rivendells are as easy to fender as the typical British club bikes, or 
> the Japanese sport-touring machines. It is only in the last fifteen years 
> of the integrated-bike renaissance that designing for more than "clearance" 
> and "versatility" has been even recognized as desirable in the USA. Grant 
> himself stated that it isn't hard. You just have to pay attention. 
> > 
> > Best, 
> > 
> > Will 
> > William M deRosset 
> > Fort Collins 
> > 
>
>

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