Don-

The BB is crazy low now.

My Riv Road has 80 mm of BB drop, and my conversion from 700 x 25 to 650 x
38 dropped it another 6 mm.

I use 170 mm cranks and I still need to be careful not to pedal in turns,
and to keep my pedals level when off-roading.

However, the very low BB gives the bike great handling and a low stepover.
Not a bad trade-off, especially with my overwhelming preference for the 650
x 38 tires.

Tim

On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 8:42 PM, Don Compton <dpco...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Tim,
> Many Riv's built for 700c wheels have fairly low bottom brackets. How does
> that work with going to 650 rims?
>
> On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 7:50:19 AM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>
>> I have a Riv Road Standard, kind of a pre-Ram, pre-Roadeo, and I've
>> modified it more towards touring than fast road riding.
>>
>> Mine cleared a 700 x 28 with no fenders, which I found limiting.  I
>> prefer riding with fenders and wider tires for varied surfaces (I even put
>> fenders on my new carbon cross bike -- it has fender bosses).
>>
>> So, I:
>> converted the Riv Road to 650b x 38 with long reach brakes
>> added full fenders
>> added a rear rack (Nitto R20 Mt Campee)
>> added a front rack (Nitto F20 Mt Campee or Nitto M1, with Tubus clamps
>> and fork adapters to fit)
>> mounted a Brooks Flyer Special
>> built up a dynamo wheelset (for the Luxos U headlight and Topline brake
>> light)
>> and added all kinds of accessories (frame pump, wired computer, headset
>> spacer bell, phone mount, etc).
>>
>> Rivs can be quite versatile, if you are.
>>
>> I already have an excellent steel go-fast bike, so the Riv fits better in
>> my stable as a light tourer.
>>
>> I put tons of miles in on the Riv for commuting, social rides, tours,
>> etc.
>>
>> In comparison, I almost never ride my skinny-tired gofast bike, and it's
>> for sale.
>>
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Kieran J <kjo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Agreed. I do wonder if my Ram has a future as a touring bike. The fork
>>> would need more attachment points - or maybe a different fork.
>>>
>>> It's quite overbuilt in its present config as a stripped-down, go-fast
>>> type machine - especially for a lanky dude like me. I wouldn't mind
>>> replacing it with a XXL Boulder Road Sport or something similar. Something
>>> lighter, faster and more spring-y. I'll add it to the list!
>>>
>>> KJ
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 9:44:23 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  It would have made a wonderful touring bike, I guess. And it was
>>>> beefier than it needed to be; compared to the very light Motobecane, say.
>>>>
>>>>
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