steve,
those are some beauiful roads. are the unpaved sections public roads?
thanks for sharing.
don c.

On Nov 16, 10:55 am, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 09:57 -0800, Patrick in VT wrote:
> > On Nov 16, 7:12 am, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote:
> > > In my experience, 30-something's about the right distance for a photo
> > > ride.  I spend enough time taking pictures that it adds a significant
> > > amount of time to the length of a ride.  Besides, beyond a certain point
> > > I find my "eye" wants to shut down and isn't interested in seeing photo
> > > opportunities any longer.
>
> > > Just curious: has anyone here ever tried to organize a "photo ride" as a
> > > group ride?  If so, how'd you do it, and how did it go?
>
> > that's interesting.
>
> > I find that taking photos on a longer, or more strenous ride to be a
> > nice distraction, and even re-energizing.  taking a nice pic is a
> > reminder of why i enjoy cycling so much - i sometimes need that
> > reminder during those tough stretches of road ;)
>
> > and some moments are just too good to *not* take a picture of, no
> > matter the circumstances.  earlier this fall, I met up with a group
> > doing the 6 gap ride in VT.  there was a couple on a tandem and I
> > couldn't wait to take pictures of them going up the east side of
> > Lincoln Gap - what bicycling magazine calls the "toughest mile in
> > America."  not something I normally do when ascending that hill, but
> > that feat needed to be memorialized!
>
> > in any event, i don't find that taking pictures slows me down
> > appreciably for casual rides/brevets/etc. - maybe 10-15mins per 100
> > miles?
>
> Wow.  I can burn 5 minutes on one shot.  Now to be fair, many of mine
> are multi-shot panoramas, so that one shot is made up of anywhere from 2
> or 3 to 8 or 9 individual exposures; and up until now I've been relying
> on manual exposure settings (most recently tried AF/AE lock, jury still
> out) so it takes a lot longer than it might seem at first.  And, playing
> off something quoted in a recent obit of a famous photographer ("it's a
> matter of knowing where to stand and when to do it") you can spend a
> good deal of time finding the right place to stand.  
>
> On this 
> ridehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/97916...@n00/sets/72157622461091582/show/
> I spent an hour in one stretch of road that was less than 5 miles long
> down and back.  Between photo ops, I was riding at around 14 mph,
> especially after I noticed how the weather was starting to deteriorate
> (in fact, I cut the ride short by around 20 miles, as well as picking up
> the pace) but my overall "brevet style" average came out to be under 10.
>
> > what do you consider significant and why is the loss of time an issue
> > - is it preventing you from riding with the group?
>
> Certainly.  First time you stop, they're gone, and anything over 5
> minutes means you'll certainly never see them again.  In fact, chances
> are good that after 3 minutes of stopping you'll never regain contact.
>
> Sometimes, of course, that can be liberating, like 
> here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916...@n00/sets/72157621915320542/show/
> when I decided as long as they'd dropped me, I'd take pictures of the
> scenic things they were missing as they zoomed by.  
>
> The first shot's at the crest of a roller, one in a series; the dirt
> road and the barn in the next one is at the apex of a diminishing radius
> downhill turn that'd I'd been by at least a hundred times before over
> the years and never once saw it, too busy minding the turn.  The last 6
> were taken at the base of two of the most difficult climbs in the area,
> and once the climb begins in earnest nobody has any attention left for
> gawking at scenery.  So although I'd been up those climbs scores of
> times, I never actually saw any of those scenes before that day.
>
> > i suppose it also depends on how serious you are about the quality of
> > photos.
>
> Well, if you're not even going to stop, just point the camera over your
> shoulder and take whatever you get, that won't take much time.  
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