I'm glad I stayed out of it-- since I don't own a Rivendell and therefore am not a Rivendell Rider. :-o
Anton On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 10:53:31 AM UTC-4, Fullylugged wrote: > > Time for this thread to die > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 1, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Deacon Patrick <lamon...@mac.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > > Och! Tell me this is an elaborately planned, well ramped up, April Fool's > joke! > > This is utterly fascinating and quizzically amusing and stunningly > illustrative of people who seem remarkably large in number and include the > highly educated, doctors, and nurses, and more, so as to perhaps be a trait > other than one institutional learning can alleviate, who choose slightly > informed, highly illogical ignorance over easily informed, reasoned > understanding through inquiry and listening. My apologies to those > following this thread for the off-topic nature of this rabbit hole, which > my choice to respond only seems to promote rather than resolve. I had hoped > mocking and pointing out stupidity would serve to at lease dissuade further > stupidity rather than doubling down. Because of the ignorance and arrogance > of these responses from Steve and now Matt on this group, I will take more > license than I usually would, for it reveals one of the challenges people > with brain injury encounter often in finding stunning anger and ignorance > from many people, including their own doctors who are supposedly experts in > brain injury. > > Dear Matt, > > Why are you choosing to remain in ignorance? > > Your first sentence indicates you are in a position of ignorance, and you > know it. "I do not see how anyone can disagree with Steve." It is a > stunning shame there is no resource to which you could turn to inform your > ignorance of why I choose what I choose. Yet there you stand. Firm in your > believe that though I clearly have arrived at a conclusion different than > you can see any possibility of, you choose to remain ignorant rather than > inquire as to whether there are perhaps things of which you are as yet > unaware. Do you realize you just gave a diatribe justifying your > non-inquiry? You exude a stunning amount of effort to support this > intellectual inertia, citing a singular fact as if it is Highly Informative > to me-the-ignorant-one, that brain injuries are cumulative. Were you aware > that I've had 8+ concussions since I was 12? Even a slight modicum of logic > on your part would indicate that perhaps I am aware of the cumulative > nature of concussions, and that, perhaps, there is more to the story, more > that explains the apparent contradictions. (By the way, such surface-level > contradictions are common with brain injury and most all chronic health > issues. I have constant vertigo and can't take two steps in most shoes > without needs days or weeks to recover, but I run and bike mountain trails. > Unless one understands proprioception via going barefoot, this makes no > sense.) > > Were one to apply logic, from your position, combined with a presumption > of goodness that at the very least I clearly have reasons, whether good or > not, for doing what I do, the following thread-of-though might occur: > > I, Matt, stand on the outside of brain injury, looking at the outside > choices of someone with brain injury. His choice directly contradicts > everything that I know to be true about common sense and self-preservation. > Thus, either I have superior common sense and capacity and need to help > this person see how stupid he is being, or there are things below the > surface I do not yet see that make the apparent contradictions make sense > and at the very least more of a judgement call than I realize. What > possible means at my disposal is there to help shed light on which of these > two possibilities contains the truth? Is there anyone I could ask to learn > why this poor and utter fool chooses not to wear a helmet when riding a > bicycle. > > > Should you find a way to inform your ignorance, please let me know. I'm > here to help, if I may. > > "I don't think Christ's healing balm has anything to do with Steve > opinion, or mine for that matter." > I am sorry your Christ is so small! If you believe Christ is fully divine > and fully human and thus not only the savior of humanity but also the > height of humanity to which we should all aspire (we are like Christ in all > ways but sin), would not Christ have something to say on every aspect of > human experience, including one as seemingly piffling as this? Every choice > we make impacts our eternal body and soul, either bringing us closer toward > Christ or taking further away. No choice, therefore, is trivial. Perhaps > your understanding of Christ is too small? Perhaps you can look for a way > to choose the Best Good Christ reveals in every choice you make today? What > a perfect week, this Holy Week, to discover who He is and how much bigger > he is, and thus how much bigger he calls each of us to become. The truth is > that wherever any of us fall short of our human potential, we sin. I fall > short of my fullest human potential and turn to His healing balm to help me > become more fully who He created me to be, and I pray that same peace and > healing balm for everyone, including you and Steve. > > May God startle you with joy! > > With abandon, > Patrick > > > > > > > On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 10:14:40 PM UTC-6, hangtownmatt wrote: >> >> Personally, I do not see how anyone can disagree with Steve. Maybe his >> delivery is harsh but the message true. Bangs on the head are cumulative >> and the long term results have been proven. If I had a bludgeoned brain I >> would be taking measures to protect it. I'm not saying helmets are perfect >> or the only answer, but if you need further proof just look at what's going >> on in the NFL. As inferior as helmets may be, I do not see anyone >> choosing to play in the NFL without a helmet I do not like wearing >> helmets either, and for me, someone who doesn't have a post-bludgeoned >> brain, I probably stand a better chance of getting melanoma than a brain >> trauma riding a bike. That's why I wear a Treadley helmet hat! It allows >> me to continue to wear a helmet to help protect me from potential brain >> trauma and also helps protect me from the sun ...without all the chemicals >> in suntan lotion.. But hey ... if I ate Deacon's recommended Paleo diet >> (or whatever variance it may be) I wouldn't have to worry about melanoma or >> getting run over by a car because that diet alone would kill me first. >> >> Deacon, I mean no harm to you personally. But you put this stuff out >> there, and you are free to speak and do as you wish, but we are also >> entitled to our opinions based on our own personal knowledge and >> experience. I don't think Christ's healing balm has anything to do with >> Steve opinion, or mine for that matter. >> >> Your brother in Christ, >> >> Matt >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 12:16:10 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: >>> >>> On 03/31/2015 09:19 AM, Deacon Patrick wrote: >>> > Dear Steve, >>> > >>> > I am sorry something happened to you and/or those you love that causes >>> > you great anger toward me because I do not wear a helmet. Should you >>> > ever email me directly, either in the group or privately, I am happy >>> > to explain why I ride without a helmet, but that, I suspect, is not >>> > the real issue here. I wish pray you experience the peace of Christ's >>> > healing balm and that God may startle you with joy. >>> >>> Do what you like. I said what *I* would do. I would not do what you >>> do, for the reason I stated. I'm not angry, I just think you are being >>> very foolish (or, as they say in the vernacular, "being an idiot"). >>> >>> It is now well known head trauma is cumulative, and you have on numerous >>> occasions made it very well known around here that you are already >>> suffering the effects of multiple head traumas. You may be willing to >>> risk more; as I said, if it were me, I would not. >>> >>> As for the rest of you, by all means wear or don't wear whatever you >>> like. 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