I was getting somewhat close to putting the money down for a 59cm Clem,
until I checked the geo chart and saw that it had a 34.75" standover
height. At 6'3" with a 91cm PBH, I already find my 62cm Cross Check taller
than what I want for around town riding, and it's a touch less than 34" in
standover height. When I've tried to use my CC as my kid puller/around town
bike, I quickly got tired of how close everything was at every stop (and
there are a LOT of stops when riding with kids). Nearly 35" is a deal
breaker.

All of this is a very roundabout way of saying to be careful about how tall
an even bigger Clem would get.

Of course, there's the Clementine, but that frame design has zero appeal
for me (while the broadly similar Cheviot looks pretty good, go figure).

Eric
Dublin, OH


On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Garth <garth...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Yes Matt, is does *appear *longer , even by measuring the full image with
> a ruler onscreen where it definitely IS longer.   So there seems to be
> direct contradiction here, with Keven's info and the image shown, which
> should be noted is only a prototype. The production frames are non-existent
> as of now . The pre-sale from the Blug info appears to be a pre pre-sale
> even, earlier than they had planned or wanted but they need some cash .
>
> It does not appear though, to be any higher front end than what Keven said
> though, so to have an overly long TT and not a proportionately higher head
> tube seems like it would be a bit odd .  Again , it's not until final specs
> are officially confirmed does any of this matter !    We're all talking
> about Pie in the Sky, it looks great but you can't have it.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 19, 2015 at 5:31:56 PM UTC-4, Matt B. wrote:
>>
>> I'm sure the final geometry is probably still in the works but the top
>> tube on the prototype 59cm on the blug definitely looks longer than
>> 61cm.    It looks like it's about ~63cm actual, and maybe ~65cm horizontal.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 9:12:25 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>   I had some questions about the Clem for Keven about the 59cm. Clem
>>> that he graciously answered for me and thought I'd pass them along .
>>>
>>> 1. The head/front end(top of the head tube) on the Clem is "virtually
>>> identical" in  height as my 60cm. Bombadil .
>>> 2. The top tube is "61cm-ish" .  That's 2cm. shorter than the Bomba ,
>>> :(  . (Too short for me,, boo-hoo , lol )
>>> 3. The head and seat angles he as not positive on, likely the same as
>>> the Bomba , which is a 72 ST and 71 HT.
>>> 4. In regards to number one, to get the highest bars, the steering tube
>>> is always left as long as possible !
>>> 5. The BB and headset are likely Tange's .
>>> 6. If you want a different front cable hanger, you can buy one
>>> separately for it .  I assume he meant the would install it in place of the
>>> stock one.
>>>
>>>
>>>   And he welcomes questions, which is awesome !  !
>>>
>>> Oh yes ...  he also added this : "* Grant is making noise about
>>>> creating a 64cm Clementine which would have a bigger headtube (higher
>>>> handlebars) than your Bombadil and the 59cm Clem's, so that might be worth
>>>> waiting for/ signing up for.  Not sure if it will be included with the
>>>> first shipment*."
>>>
>>>
>>> So there just *may *be a 64cm Clementine !  Which I'd love as a top
>>> tube on a Clem would be close to my max clearance wise .  I always wanted a
>>> Betty or something like it in the past but it was always just not quite
>>> tall/long enough for me , so this solves all that :)  Yeah !
>>>
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