One suggestion: if you haven't tried Compass Barlow Pass or other light, 
supple tires on the LHT, you might want to do so. It could change your 
perception of the unloaded ride. What tires are you running now?

rod

On Thursday, March 19, 2015 at 9:17:44 PM UTC-4, James Warren wrote:
>
> Yes.
>
>  
>
> And the way to optimize the Clem will be to use either the Bosco bars or 
> the Albatross. I'm a firm believer of the theory that as the bars bring you 
> more upright, it makes sense for the rear of the bike to get longer. So if 
> you're used to drops on the LHT, you might want to change that to uprights 
> on the Clem, because it will be way longer in the rear.
>
>  
>
> But as far as the bike being ready for anything, I fully believe it. I 
> have a Hunqapillar that I absolutely love for touring with its Bosco bars 
> and 46 cm chainstays. Your chainstays will be longer. The smooth ride makes 
> me never care if it is heavy or light.
>
>  
>
> Have fun,
>
> Jim W.
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: alan lavine 
> Sent: Mar 19, 2015 6:05 PM 
> To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> 
> Subject: [RBW] LHT vs Clem ?? 
>
> Evening All,
>
> I have a Surly LHT that I've used for fully loaded touring, and have loved 
> it for that purpose.  However, when lightly loaded or not at all, I find 
> the ride stiff, rigid, almost leaden (is that a word ?)  For various 
> reasons, I probably will not be doing that kind of touring going forward, 
> probably just light credit card touring. So I'm thinking that the Clem I 
> pre-ordered might be a better choice for that purpose.  Is there enough 
> known about the Clem's geometry, tubing diameters and thickness to make 
> that decision?  Certainly the long chainstays will make for a more 
> forgiving ride.  So does it make sense for me to take all the LHT's stock 
> components and mount them on the Clem and call it my new light touring bike?
>
> Awaiting the collective wisdom of the group...if the answer is yes, I'll 
> have a 58 cm LHT frame to sell.....
>
> Thanks,
> Alan
>
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