100! On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Doug Williams < salguod3791willi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Perfect Geir! > > > > Just wear whatever works for the ride you will be doing. Exercise clothes > or racing kit are fine if that is what you are doing. Nothing wrong with > bike clothes for a long and/or hard ride. But bike shoes and jerseys in the > grocery store are just...well...whatever. Again, I maintain that MANY > bicyclists simply can't imagine going on a "regular ride" in "regular > clothes". They miss out on many good rides because they simply can't ride > without their racing kit. In the time spent getting dressed, I could have > already been at the grocery store. The result is that the "racing kit > crowd" never ride on short errand rides, because it is just too much > trouble to get into their uniform. > > > > > > Doug > > > > *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto: > rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Geir Bentzen > *Sent:* Thursday, February 26, 2015 2:24 PM > *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor > > > > I believe I have read/skimmed all the comments by now and as a European > who has emigrated to the U.S. what strikes me as odd is the feeling I get > that riding a bike is something special. Something you need a club for, > extra things to buy, something a bit exotic. I believe the core of what > Grant says is that it is not something special. It as normal as driving or > walking down the street or taking the bus, and in fact those things can > often be combined. My impression is that he promotes using the bike as your > get around daily tool as much as you can, and that may mean to wear > whatever suits the combination of your tasks, not only your bike riding. > This is how I experienced life in Europe. But, if you go out for a ride > that has no other tasks to it than just riding then I believe you should > feel free to dress for the physical exercise involved. In my own case that > means bike shorts made of lycra and other more or less bike specific attire > as needed for the weather. I just don't see the conflict here. I have > several bikes, but I notice that the one I grab all the time is my > Hunqapillar, even though I own an excellent German city bike for going to > the grocery store. So the Hunq does it all, but I may not wear the same > clothes all the time. When younger I would often wear running shoes while > walking around town in jeans, but I would never go for a long run wearing > those jeans even though I still wore the same shoes. Why not adopt the same > practical and non-ideological attitude? > > On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 3:08:44 PM UTC-6, Jon in the foothills of > Central Colorado wrote: > > In the new Adventure Cyclist Mag > > PETERSEN RESPONDS TO READER > > LETTER 'UNRACING? UNCOOL' > > Racing attitudes, bikes, clothing, > > and diets have become the norm and > > normal, and are so pervasive that many > > adult cyclists, maybe even some you > > know, accept the racing standards as > > the only legitimate way to be a serious > > adult cyclist. What I tried to do in the > > book *Just Ride *-- and what we do here > > at Rivendell Bicycle Works -- is offer > > an alternative, a model to other adult > > cyclists that there is another way. This > > letter is not an ad for either. I'm simply > > saying where I come from and what I > > do. > > We are the mice trying to squeak > > above the roar at the base of the > > waterfall. It is no time to be wishywashy, > > but I try hard to not offend. > > Inevitably, a declarative position on > > any matter is bound to raise a few > > hackles with those who have a different > > position, but it still hurts to be judged > > by a stranger who would probably like > > me, and whom I'd surely like, in person. > > A good number of our customers are > > middle-aged and older folks trying to > > fit in some activity as they age. They > > often have the means, and they're > > influenced by what they read and see > > that promotes racers as a good model -- > > and that's something I don't agree with. > > They shop as innocents and come > > out of it dressed like racers and riding > > bikes that are not only inappropriate > > for the kind of riding they do, but are, > > on top of that and more egregiously, not > > comfortable. We undo that. You may > > see ego or evil behind it, but I don't > > feel either of those. I see racing and > > racers as fringe and am simply trying > > to legitimize an alternative point of > > view, one that I feel strongly about. I'm > > trying -- certainly not singlehandedly -- > > to make people feel good about riding > > without dressing in pro-team gear and > > copying so many other affectations of > > the racer, and that is what Unracing and > > *Just Ride *and Rivendell Bicycle Works is > > all about. We're nobody's enemy. Some > > of my best friends pedal cliplessly and > > in spandex. It's cool. > > Grant Petersen > > Walnut Creek, California > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/F-3pQcXcdIw/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace "it isn't a contest. 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