Big Agnes http://www.bigagnes.com/Products/Specs/Bag  addresses this
issue by providing only a sleeve in the bottom of their bags to hold
the pad. Their semi-rectangular bags are very comfortable for tossing
and turning.

On Oct 14, 6:48 pm, Ray Shine <[email protected]> wrote:
> As an avid backpacker, and one who once sewed his own quilt (not so neat of a 
> result) I can explain why quilts are so handy and practical.  If one uses a 
> down sleeping bag in the traditional manner, he or she loses almost all of 
> the thermo value underneath the sleeping body as the weight of the sleeper 
> compresses the down, thereby neutralizing any loft, therefore losing nearly 
> all thermo value.  Down is most effective when it is lofted, therefore 
> unzipping it and using it as a quilt, with feet tucked into the partially 
> zipped toe box, is an extremely efficient way to use the bag, and it provides 
> SOOOO much more comfort when tossing and turning.   Of course, the bottom 
> thermo value of any bag is gained not from the bag, but from the mattress.  
> The mattress is the most important thermo block to protect one from low 
> ground temps.  If you have not tried sleeping using a mummy bag unzipped as a 
> quilt, I highly recommend it, especially for three-season
>  use.
> Ray
>
> --- On Wed, 10/14/09, clevewheel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> From: clevewheel <[email protected]>
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Wiggy's Sleeping Bag
> To: "RBW Owners Bunch" <[email protected]>
> Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 8:31 AM
>
> Those quilts are a really cool idea, but I have a hard time seeing how
> they would cover as well as a sleeping bag.
>
> On Oct 13, 12:16 pm, usuk2007 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Take a look at
>
> >www.jacksrbetter.com
>
> > They do a nice line of down sleeping quilts. They pack down small and
> > don't cost as much as many down bags.
> > They must be used with a sleeping pad and give you lots of options for
> > moving about.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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