But I have your back. On my 58 cm Ram, I -- 5'10", mostly torso, short arms ("damn! I can't reach my change!!") and simply drop my arm loosely from my shoulder and find the dt shifter.
There *is* one more variable; how inclined your body is in your typical riding positions. My road bars are ~1" below saddle, and I'm at the usual 45* on the hoods, so ... On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 1:51 PM, George Schick <bhim...@gmail.com> wrote: > > OK, I'll say "uncle" on this one. I stand 5' 9" and have slightly > disproportionately shorter legs vs. slightly longer torso ratio. And I > ride a 54cm frame. So for me to "reach down" is no big deal, but I realize > that it might be a big issue for those of taller heights and more > proportionate builds who ride larger frames. In which case the DT vs. > bar-con issue may be more a physiological necessity than one of person > preference. > > > On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 2:01:18 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote: >> >> On 12/17/2014 02:44 PM, George Schick wrote: >> >> Plus, if you're used to riding with hands on the brake lever hoods, as I >> assume most of us are, you still have to reach down to the end of the drops >> with one hand or the other. With the DT's only one hand is required to do >> all the shifting - and you only reach down once. >> >> >> Let me take issue with this. When I say "reach down" to get at a >> downtube shifter, I mean not only extend the arm and the hand, but also >> bend at the waist, tipping the head down towards the ground. It's a >> *reach.* (This varies by frame size, arm length, etc: some people >> simply drop their hand and it lands right on the shift lever, no body >> movement involved. I have a big frame and relatively short arms; for me it >> is a big reach.) >> >> Unless they have a grotesquely incorrectly sized handlebar and stem, >> nobody needs to *reach* that way to get their hand on the end of the >> handle bar. Yes you do have to move your hand. No you do not have to >> extend your arm or bend at the waist. Or, if you do, you'd really better >> change your stem and your handlebars. >> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten ************************************* *[I]n exploring the physical universe man has made no attempt to explore himself. Much of what goes by the name of pleasure is simply an effort to destroy consciousness. If one started by asking, what is man? what are his needs? how can he best express himself? one would discover that merely having the power to avoid work and live one’s life from birth to death in electric light and to the tune of tinned music is not a reason for doing so.”* * -- George Orwell, Pleasure Spots* *Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not money, I am become as a sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not money, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not money, it profiteth me nothing. Money suffereth long, and it is kind; money envieth not; money vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, doth not behave unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; beareth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. . . . And now abideth faith, hope, money, these three; but the greatest of these is money. * * -- George Orwell, Keep The Apidistra Flying* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.