OK, I'll say "uncle" on this one.  I stand 5' 9" and have slightly 
disproportionately shorter legs vs. slightly longer torso ratio.  And I 
ride a 54cm frame.  So for me to "reach down" is no big deal, but I realize 
that it might be a big issue for those of taller heights and more 
proportionate builds who ride larger frames.  In which case the DT vs. 
bar-con issue may be more a physiological necessity than one of person 
preference. 

On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 2:01:18 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>  On 12/17/2014 02:44 PM, George Schick wrote:
>  
> Plus, if you're used to riding with hands on the brake lever hoods, as I 
> assume most of us are, you still have to reach down to the end of the drops 
> with one hand or the other. With the DT's only one hand is required to do 
> all the shifting - and you only reach down once. 
>
>
> Let me take issue with this.  When I say "reach down" to get at a downtube 
> shifter, I mean not only extend the arm and the hand, but also bend at the 
> waist, tipping the head down towards the ground.  It's a *reach.*  (This 
> varies by frame size, arm length, etc: some people simply drop their hand 
> and it lands right on the shift lever, no body movement involved.  I have a 
> big frame and relatively short arms; for me it is a big reach.)
>
> Unless they have a grotesquely incorrectly sized handlebar and stem, 
> nobody needs to *reach* that way to get their hand on the end of the 
> handle bar.  Yes you do have to move your hand.  No you do not have to 
> extend your arm or bend at the waist.  Or, if you do, you'd really better 
> change your stem and your handlebars.
>
>
>  

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