Well if you are still reading this string, you must be interested in how a trade in good faith can go bad. Below is the email exchange between Johnny and I, chronology from bottom to top.
The two email clients that Johnny is talking about are my login here: Mojo and my email address from home. Johnny answered my emails until 25Sep, then did not. Johnny mailed his pump on 16Sep, the day after he got mine. I sent him a weekly email on 1Oct and again on 8Oct keeping him informed of my no-pump arrival situation. Perhaps these emails did not reach him. But all my other emails to friends and family seem to have arrived OK. I understand Johnny is upset that I accused him of being a Scammer. I apologize. But I did go from 25Sep until 8Oct without a response from him. For me it wasn't about the pump, it was more about the trust. I have learned to not do a purchase or trade with any one in chat groups without giving and getting a tracking number. That way actions are more transparent. By the way, no pump has arrived here as of Saturday mail delivery. I wish Johnny and all of you Happy Riding. ----- Original Message ---- From: Joe Ramey <gjtra...@yahoo.com> To: Jonathan Bell <johnnyal...@verizon.net> Sent: Thu, October 8, 2009 8:07:38 AM Subject: Re: For Trade (or possible sale): Quicker Pro Pump OK Johnny, Its been another week without your pump showing up here and now you are not talking to me. So what's up? I would hate to have to out you on the Riv list as a scammer. Wishing you Instant Karma ----- Original Message ---- From: Joe Ramey <gjtra...@yahoo.com> To: Jonathan Bell <johnnyal...@verizon.net> Sent: Thu, October 1, 2009 6:57:17 PM Subject: Re: For Trade (or possible sale): Quicker Pro Pump Johnny, It has been another week, and over two weeks since you sent your pump, and 3 weeks since I sent mine. Still your pump has not arrived here. Do you have any tracking information on your package? What should we do now? Joe ----- Original Message ---- From: Jonathan Bell <johnnyal...@verizon.net> To: Joe Ramey <gjtra...@yahoo.com> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 4:34:20 AM Subject: Re: For Trade (or possible sale): Quicker Pro Pump Well....it is odd. The Medium I guess is the right size but it does not fit in tight. It goes the length of the top tube and matches the length but is not tight so that even with a strap it will flop put of place if you hit it. The large won't fit at all. It is a cm or so too big. I guess the answer is a medium with two straps to hold it better. If you have a medium pump I could send this one back or I can just keep it and see if anyone will trade me a medium for it. I could also figure out a price for the Quicker Pump and you could Paypal me. I would of course not expect any payment until it arrived at your house. Johnny On Sep 24, 2009, at 11:02 PM, Joe Ramey wrote: > Thanks for writing, No, still no pump. If you sent it non-Priority, > it can take awhile. > > So my Large and a Medium didn't work for you? > > What do you want so that I can keep the Quicker Pro? > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Joe Ramey <gjtra...@yahoo.com> > To: Jonathan Bell <johnnyal...@verizon.net> > Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:42:32 PM > Subject: Re: For Trade (or possible sale): Quicker Pro Pump > > Johnny, > > I haven't heard from you in a week, and still no pump from you. > Are we OK? > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Joe Ramey <gjtra...@yahoo.com> > To: Jonathan Bell <johnnyal...@verizon.net> > Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 7:15:39 AM > Subject: Re: For Trade (or possible sale): Quicker Pro Pump > > Johnny, > > I don't want you to be stuck with a pump that doesn't work. Do you > want to re-trade? > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Jonathan Bell <johnnyal...@verizon.net> > To: Joe Ramey <gjtra...@yahoo.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 6:52:05 PM > Subject: Re: For Trade (or possible sale): Quicker Pro Pump > > Got the pump today. I sent your pump out yesterday. I have been > pretty sick and fell behind in everything but lying in bed. At that > task I excelled. Hope it works out good for you. The pump actually > is a notch too big. The whole thing confuses me. I tried a med and it > was too small but a large is too big. I just can't make sense of it. > > Johnny > > > On Sep 17, 2009, at 7:05 PM, Joe Ramey wrote: > >> Johnny, >> >> Haven't heard from you for over a week. Have you received my pump? >> Nothing here yet. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Joe Ramey <gjtra...@yahoo.com> >> To: Jonathan Bell <johnnyal...@verizon.net> >> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 9:33:39 PM >> Subject: Re: For Trade (or possible sale): Quicker Pro Pump >> >> Johnny, >> >> Thursday, I shipped your Blackburn pump from Minturn Colorado, a >> little town in the center of the state. We were on our way to climb >> Mt Massive >> http://www.14ers.com/photos/peakphoto.php?peak=Mt.+Massive&large=1&photo=32421&start=25 >> >> I expect the pump to arrive there Wed +/- 1 day. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Joe Ramey <gjtra...@yahoo.com> >> To: Jonathan Bell <johnnyal...@verizon.net> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 10:12:17 PM >> Subject: Re: For Trade (or possible sale): Quicker Pro Pump >> >> I built a triangulated box for it tonight, so I will definitely ship >> it Thursday. Long pumps are a pain to ship! >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Joe Ramey <gjtra...@yahoo.com> >> To: Jonathan Bell <johnnyal...@verizon.net> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 8:56:52 PM >> Subject: Re: For Trade (or possible sale): Quicker Pro Pump >> >> >> I plan to ship it tomorrow, but I will confirm. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Jonathan Bell <johnnyal...@verizon.net> >> To: Joe Ramey <gjtra...@yahoo.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 8:54:19 PM >> Subject: Re: For Trade (or possible sale): Quicker Pro Pump >> >> Sure. >> >> Let me know your address and I will get it all packed up. Let me know >> when it ships. >> >> Thanks, >> Johnny >> >> >> On Sep 9, 2009, at 10:52 PM, Joe Ramey wrote: >> >>> Johnny, we didn't get away Wednesday as planned. >>> Wanna trade? >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ---- >>> From: Jonathan Bell <johnnyal...@verizon.net> >>> To: Joe Ramey <gjtra...@yahoo.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 5:28:03 PM >>> Subject: Re: For Trade (or possible sale): Quicker Pro Pump >>> >>> Shoot me an email on Monday when you get back. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Johnny >>> >>> >>> On Sep 9, 2009, at 9:09 AM, Joe Ramey wrote: >>> >>>> I know I pumped up a tire when I first got the pump to check it >>>> out. >>>> Otherwise I believe it is unused, or at least very little used. It >>>> was carried on a bike for the better part of a year, then has been >>>> sitting in the garage for ~3 years? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ---- >>>> From: Jonathan Bell <johnnyal...@verizon.net> >>>> To: Joe Ramey <gjtra...@yahoo.com> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 4:33:06 AM >>>> Subject: Re: For Trade (or possible sale): Quicker Pro Pump >>>> >>>> That sounds like it would work. Let me know the age and condition >>>> and >>>> maybe we can work something out. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Johnny >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 9, 2009, at 12:31 AM, Joe Ramey wrote: >>>> >>>>> Johnny, >>>>> >>>>> I compressed the pump spring fully to 20.5 inches or ~52cm. So it >>>>> will work on your bike. >>>>> Well, measure inside to inside of your seat-head tube and make >>>>> sure >>>>> it is >20.5 inches. >>>>> >>>>> Let me know what you decide >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ---- >>>>> From: Jonathan Bell <johnnyal...@verizon.net> >>>>> To: Mojo <gjtra...@yahoo.com> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 8:15:25 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: For Trade (or possible sale): Quicker Pro Pump >>>>> >>>>> Definitely interested. My top tube is around 55 I think. Would >>>>> you >>>>> think this would work? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Johnny >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 8, 2009, at 10:12 PM, Mojo wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Johnny, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have a silver Blackburn frame fit FP-1L pump that I would like >>>>>> to >>>>>> trade for your Quicker Pro. The Blackburn fits my 57-61cm top >>>>>> tube >>>>>> lengths, probably more. It does do a low rattle thing when I ride >>>>>> with >>>>>> it. Maybe your karma is quieter than mine. >>>>>> >>>>>> Problem: I am going camping early tommorrow and won't be back >>>>>> until >>>>>> Sunday. So I couldn't mail this pump until Monday. >>>>>> >>>>>> Let me know if you are interested. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 8, 7:39 pm, Johnny Alien <johnnyal...@verizon.net> wrote: >>>>>>> Forgot the link to show what the heck it is. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.velo-orange.com/quickerpropump.html On Oct 9, 7:52 pm, Johnny Alien <johnnyal...@verizon.net> wrote: > He does not need to "out" anyone as it is me that he is talking about. > I have done deals with other people on here and I think they will let > you know I have had no issues. Also if anyone cares to know my ebay > ID is dahlia11 and I have close to 500 feedbacks and it is 100% > positive. I do not scam people and I most definitely would not do it > on a small pump exchange. > > We agreed to an exchange, I sent out mine and he sent out his. I got > his and after awhile he emailed and said he did not get mine. I told > him at that time I would send his back as it didn't fit anyway. he > expressed interest in trying to find a way to keep my pump so I > figured I would hold off on sending his back to see if it would > eventually arrive. > > I never heard back so I figured he got it. Then I got an email saying > he was going to call me out as a scammer. I got this email AFTER he > apparently came here and started to make the situation sound bad. He > told me that he sent emails inbetween but I never got them. His > emails look like they come from two different email clients. I have > looked in my junk and trash folders and see no record of them. > Regardless I have answered every email I got from him. > > My wife stuck his pump in the mail today and it was sent with a > signature required. He can keep my pump if it ever shows up I don't > really care. > > The bottom line is he is coming here making the transaction sound bad > on my end but in the end I am out double shipping and a pump. > > I felt I did what I could in the situation and dealt with every email > that was sent to me. I feel bad that he feels scammed but I was honest > throughout. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
