Hear Hear, I recently bought a Soma Grand Randonneur to replace my bombadil
and have to say I am very happy with the frame (haven't built it yet).
Tight welds, nice thick paint, nice alloy headbadge, threading for fenders,
lowrider mounts, double eyelets on the dropouts, etc. Its a great frame,
retails around 500 I think but I got mine for 375 and am really happy. It
keeps me riding until I see how this Clem thing shakes out and maybe it
will become my everyday bike, I like that Mike Kone was in on the design
too!

On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Beth H <[email protected]> wrote:

> Andy and others who bemoan the "selling out" of the Rivendell ideal --
> have you ever owned a bike shop and been responsible for the care and
> feeding of your workers? Just curious. I used to co-own a shop, and had to
> make payroll twice a month. In the end high ideals won't put food on your
> employees' tables or clothes on their backs. Say what you like about Surly
> and the companies that wish they were more like Surly, but their bikes are
> far more affordable and they sell, logo font and quasi-sexist vibe be
> damned. And when fly out the door and customers are happy, your workers
> won't starve. Making payroll because your shop is selling and servicing
> decent bikes and making people happy is a lot better than the alternative.
>
> For awhile, I bemoaned how other companies had begun to copy Rivendell's
> ideas -- steel bikes with comfortable, non-racing geometry, wool tops, et
> al. Getting bicyclists with less disposable income on board by making
> cheaper copies of the cool stuff simply encourages them to ape the rich,
> right?
> Sure. Fine. Whatever. In the end, all the copying/flattery has gotten a
> crap ton more people outside and on bicycles -- enough more that I don't
> really care anymore how they got there.
>
> Riv started something really beautiful, and it comes as no surprise that
> other companies have taken up the mantle and are spreading good, sensible
> ideas. So what if my wool jersey says "Surly" (or "Pearl Izumi" or
> "Novara") on it? Better yet, so what if I scored my last lot of wool tops
> from Goodwill? and they fit a little loose or lumpy? It's all good. Hey,
> I'm outside riding my bike in nearly all kinds of weather. I'm happy.
>
> I doubt I will ever be in a position to ever buy another Rivendell
> bicycle. That's cool. I know what makes a bike sensible and comfortable and
> I can replicate an awful lot of both the geometry and aesthetic on almost
> any cheaper steel bike available to me.
> So in the end, honestly, I think Rivendell has won.
>
> Cheers and happy riding --
> Beth Hamon, getting ready to go ride in the rain. Again.
> Portland, OR
> http://www.beth-hamon-music.com
>
> On Thursday, October 23, 2014 6:12:55 AM UTC-7, ascpgh wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I commute on an LHT that most sufficiently met my set of needs and wants
>> when I bought it from a shop that hasn't transacted its soul for a
>> corporate brand floor plan. Had I given up and picked one of the big
>> brands' scant offerings in that vein, I'd be a corporate handmaiden of
>> marketing beyond downtube foolery on my benign ride to and from work. They
>> cannot grasp the idea of selling a bike, not a rolling billboard of
>> graphics and shapes. Each part need not be marked, logo-laiden or utmost.
>>
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