Good information; going to my archive.

On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 12:08 PM, 'Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> Nice post Anne. Thanks.
>
> On Saturday, October 18, 2014 9:20:34 AM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote:
>>
>> You shouldn't need a tourniquet for an axe wound to the knee!
>> Tourniquets are for extreme situations like amputations. If you use
>> them in non-extreme situations, you may well end up with an
>> amputation.
>>
>> I just recently took a Wilderness First Aid course (highly
>> recommended). The instructor was clear. "Direct pressure works. If it
>> isn't working, you're not doing it right." So I say, direct pressure
>> for bleeding. For extreme situations (femoral artery) maybe quick
>> clot.
>>
>> So I say, leave the tourniquet out of the first aid kit. It's more
>> likely to cause problems when improperly used than it is to help.
>>
>> Here are some other things to consider putting in the kit, since not
>> all emergencies are wounds:
>>
>> Aspirin, for suspected heart attacks. Yes, really, it makes a difference.
>>
>> Benadryl, can be *lifesaving* in the case of severe allergies;
>> everyone who carries an EpiPen should also carry benadryl, because the
>> EpiPen only works for twenty minutes and you need to get control of
>> the allergic response.
>>
>> Ibuprofen, I'd put it in the kit just because I use it so often.
>>
>> Another funny but necessary thing we had in our practice emergency kit
>> was little packets of honey. That also can be lifesaving for diabetics
>> with hypoglycemia. Probably not necessary for urban first aid though.
>>
>> In our First Aid class, we learned that the first thing to do when
>> confronted with a potential first aid situation is "Take a deep
>> breath." The second thing is "Survey the situation and make sure it's
>> safe to go in." The third thing is "Put on your gloves."
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Tony DeFilippo <vpi...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Since early August I've had or have been close to others with some bad
>> luck on the bike and using a hatchet... I've been over the handlebars twice
>> and then this weekend a good friend put one of my axes (fiskars x15) into
>> his knee while splitting wood.  All's well in each case thank goodness
>> though two out of the incidents involved the emergency room and the Axe
>> wound required an ambulance.
>> >
>> > Prevention of these incidents is definitely worth discussion and I've
>> given each allot of thought in that regards but the recent issue with the
>> Axe really has me thinking hard about my first aid kit for the woods and
>> while on the bike...  We were lucky to have several level headed people
>> (couple of eagle scouts!) And the materials to improvise a tourniquet and
>> compression bandage.
>> >
>> > So as I've been pouring over trauma kits for my truck and campsite I
>> also started thinking that as a nearly every day commuter I should have
>> some kit with me on the bike just as I have repair tools for the bike.
>> >
>> > The things I'm thinking of so far include;
>> >
>> > -wound cleaner, alcohol wipes?
>> > -antibiotic ointment
>> > -sterile gauze bandages (typical road rash size)
>> > -conforming wrap or athletic wrap or medical tape
>> > -triangle bandage
>> > -small assortment of band aids
>> > -rubber gloves
>> >
>> > Would the following be overkill;
>> > -CAT style tourniquet
>> > -quick clot sponge or bandage
>> > -'Israeli' style compression bandage
>> > -trauma shears
>> >
>> > The scenario for this kit is urban commuting with professional
>> emergency responce time of 10 min or less, cell service at all times and
>> the level of training I have is relatively basic. (Scout and basic military
>> level).  Oh and it needs to fit in either a large saddle wedge, frame bag
>> or other such unobtrusive, stays on bike type location.
>> >
>> > What, if anything, do you guys include in your on bike kit?
>> >
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>>
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>>
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