When walking my 1st gen Edeluxe powered by SON 20R up a steep hill (fixed
gear, OK?) it flickers slightly and the light, while almost steady, is
dimmer than at, say, 4 mph. You have to slow to a crawl for real,
discontinuous flickering. 559X32mm wheels.

On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Jason Hartman <rjasonhart...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> FWIW, my circa 1996 son28 lights an old version of the edeluxe to full
> strength just walking the bike across the room. I have no experience with
> the deluxe version of the hub. I thought about upgrading last year, but
> decided to save my money for a new bike instead.
>
> Jay Hartman.
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 7, 2014, Jim Bronson <jim.bron...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ignoring the original question about the SP hubs and focusing on the
>> flickering that people are talking about....
>>
>> I have the SON Deluxe Widebody with the Cyo Premium T.  The light
>> flickers at approximately .001 MPH, but by the time you're going 3 or
>> 4 MPH, the light is solid.  Truthfully, so far I have not been able to
>> ride slow enough to make the light flicker while I am actually riding
>> the bike.  I would be willing to bet money that any other modern LED
>> light would also operate well with this hub.  I see many others riding
>> different lights with SON Deluxe hubs in the RUSA clubs in Texas and
>> elsewhere and nobody has a problem with flicking at realistic cycling
>> speeds that will keep you from falling off your bike.
>>
>> I think this flicker issue is way overstated.  You only need the SON
>> non-deluxe if you are using old school lights like the E6, or if you
>> are powering your phone and Garmin from the hub also.  $0.02.
>>
>> If you do any sort of riding that will require a water bottle to
>> maintain hydration, you will want the lower rolling resistance of the
>> SON Deluxe.  The hub operation is barely perceptible.  My
>> seat-of-the-pants opinion is that the old school SON28s and the
>> Shimano hubs have much more rolling resistance.  I have owned all
>> three types and I put thousands of kilometers in brevets on both the
>> SON28 and the Shimano hubs and after having a SON Deluxe for a few
>> months, I would never go back.
>>
>> The ones with more resistance are fine for just puttering around
>> within a few miles of your house.
>>
>> Now, back to the original topic, I am intrigued by the Shutter
>> Precision hubs, but there they have a similar question between the
>> PV-8 and the SV-8 which has lower rolling resistance.  I don't know if
>> it's similar to the SON28/SON deluxe, but I look forward to seeing
>> this question answered.
>>
>> -Jim
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 4:14 PM, 'Rick' via RBW Owners Bunch
>> <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> > What size tire?  Rich said that on 700c that the SONdelux will cut out
>> a bit
>> > at lower speeds, whereas the SON28 does not.  More resistance
>> (marginal) on
>> > latter.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Monday, October 6, 2014 11:15:10 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Trying to decide on a dyno hub.
>> >>
>> >> Which one has less drag and more power, and what else could be of
>> concern?
>> >> I have read the blug about the Shutter, but it doesn't give definite
>> stats
>> >> on how it specifically compares to the SONdelux.
>> >> Since this is gonna be a big investment, I want to be sure I am getting
>> >> something that's going to run lights really well, and not make noise,
>> not
>> >> make the bike vibrate, and keep the lights on after the wheel stops
>> turning,
>> >> etc. No flicker, no cutting out at low speeds, etc.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for any info.
>> >
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