FWIW, my circa 1996 son28 lights an old version of the edeluxe to full
strength just walking the bike across the room. I have no experience with
the deluxe version of the hub. I thought about upgrading last year, but
decided to save my money for a new bike instead.

Jay Hartman.

On Tuesday, October 7, 2014, Jim Bronson <jim.bron...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ignoring the original question about the SP hubs and focusing on the
> flickering that people are talking about....
>
> I have the SON Deluxe Widebody with the Cyo Premium T.  The light
> flickers at approximately .001 MPH, but by the time you're going 3 or
> 4 MPH, the light is solid.  Truthfully, so far I have not been able to
> ride slow enough to make the light flicker while I am actually riding
> the bike.  I would be willing to bet money that any other modern LED
> light would also operate well with this hub.  I see many others riding
> different lights with SON Deluxe hubs in the RUSA clubs in Texas and
> elsewhere and nobody has a problem with flicking at realistic cycling
> speeds that will keep you from falling off your bike.
>
> I think this flicker issue is way overstated.  You only need the SON
> non-deluxe if you are using old school lights like the E6, or if you
> are powering your phone and Garmin from the hub also.  $0.02.
>
> If you do any sort of riding that will require a water bottle to
> maintain hydration, you will want the lower rolling resistance of the
> SON Deluxe.  The hub operation is barely perceptible.  My
> seat-of-the-pants opinion is that the old school SON28s and the
> Shimano hubs have much more rolling resistance.  I have owned all
> three types and I put thousands of kilometers in brevets on both the
> SON28 and the Shimano hubs and after having a SON Deluxe for a few
> months, I would never go back.
>
> The ones with more resistance are fine for just puttering around
> within a few miles of your house.
>
> Now, back to the original topic, I am intrigued by the Shutter
> Precision hubs, but there they have a similar question between the
> PV-8 and the SV-8 which has lower rolling resistance.  I don't know if
> it's similar to the SON28/SON deluxe, but I look forward to seeing
> this question answered.
>
> -Jim
>
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 4:14 PM, 'Rick' via RBW Owners Bunch
> <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > What size tire?  Rich said that on 700c that the SONdelux will cut out a
> bit
> > at lower speeds, whereas the SON28 does not.  More resistance (marginal)
> on
> > latter.
> >
> >
> > On Monday, October 6, 2014 11:15:10 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote:
> >>
> >> Trying to decide on a dyno hub.
> >>
> >> Which one has less drag and more power, and what else could be of
> concern?
> >> I have read the blug about the Shutter, but it doesn't give definite
> stats
> >> on how it specifically compares to the SONdelux.
> >> Since this is gonna be a big investment, I want to be sure I am getting
> >> something that's going to run lights really well, and not make noise,
> not
> >> make the bike vibrate, and keep the lights on after the wheel stops
> turning,
> >> etc. No flicker, no cutting out at low speeds, etc.
> >>
> >> Thanks for any info.
> >
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