The Berthoud bags (there are two sizes) that don’t need a decaleur (uses the 
Klik-Fix bracket) are wonderful bags.  I use both on my Atlantis (depending on 
how big my load is; they can be exchanged in 5 seconds because of the Klik-Fix) 
and I love them.  Very solid, instantly removable, include a map case, lovely 
to look at, and  available in two sizes, one of which has side pockets.  What’s 
not to like?  Here’s a  pic of each size:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/11252425444/in/set-72157624427413755 
 (larger)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8243374585/in/set-72157624427413755  
(smaller)





From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of lungimsam
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 6:20 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Sackville Bar Sack review needed please.

Update about Sackville bar sack:
I ordered the bag and the NITTO F-15 rack.

Thanks for the info everyone. Between your comments and the rivsite reviews on 
the bag page, it sounds like a good bag setup.
Noone said it drooped under weight. Everyone seems happy with their set up. RJM 
had a long term review above, and he still loved it. Keeps out the wet enough 
apparently, and I have one of those map covers to lash to it during events. 
That will be much better than strapping a cue sheet to the shifter cables, 
which is what I do now. Just wish RBW would have made the bag with a cue sheet 
plastic on the bag lid. That looks like the only feature it lacks. Wonder why 
they didn't. They thought of everything else. Glad it has side pockets! Looking 
forward to ease of opening and closing with the magnet closure. Sounds good.

I also checked into:

Berthoud setups (I researched different online retailers):
1. Berthoud also has a bar bag that doesn't need a rack, like the bar sack. 
Uses the NITTO F-15 or their black plastic QR clamper thing. No side pockets, 
but has cover plastic for cue sheet. Has elastic cords, not magnet.

2. Berthoud, whole hog, bag/front rack/decaleur setup:
Applause goes to the Compass Cycles for being the only site I saw that informs 
you that there are straps on their Berthoud bags that can be used for attaching 
bag to bars instead of needing to buy a decaleur. That  would save me 80-160 
bucks or so right there to not get a decaleur at first and see if the straps 
would be enough if I ever want to go the rack/bag route. Could pony up for a 
decaleur later if I felt the straps weren't stable enough. Thanks Compass 
Cycles for that valuable and good-hearted piece of information.

For now, I will try the rackless bag setup and see how it goes. I hope it works 
out great. I have only a fistful of seatpost on both my bikes, and that makes 
for my Pendle saddle bag dragging on my back tire on one bike (53 Bleriot) and 
slumping over my rear fender on t'other (52 Sam). So a front bag sounds good to 
avoid that, plus I can access stuff on the go, and get my teardrop aeroshape 
going on my bikes. ha ha.
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