*Update about Sackville bar sack:*
I ordered the bag and the NITTO F-15 rack.

Thanks for the info everyone. Between your comments and the rivsite reviews 
on the bag page, it sounds like a good bag setup.
Noone said it drooped under weight. Everyone seems happy with their set up. 
RJM had a long term review above, and he still loved it. Keeps out the wet 
enough apparently, and I have one of those map covers to lash to it during 
events. That will be much better than strapping a cue sheet to the shifter 
cables, which is what I do now. Just wish RBW would have made the bag with 
a cue sheet plastic on the bag lid. That looks like the only feature it 
lacks. Wonder why they didn't. They thought of everything else. Glad it has 
side pockets! Looking forward to ease of opening and closing with the 
magnet closure. Sounds good.

I also checked into:

*Berthoud setups (I researched different online retailers):*
1. Berthoud also has a bar bag that doesn't need a rack, like the bar sack. 
Uses the NITTO F-15 or their black plastic QR clamper thing. No side 
pockets, but has cover plastic for cue sheet. Has elastic cords, not magnet.

2. Berthoud, whole hog, bag/front rack/decaleur setup:
*Applause goes to the Compass Cycles *for being the only site I saw that 
informs you that there are straps on their Berthoud bags that can be used 
for attaching bag to bars instead of needing to buy a decaleur. That  would 
save me 80-160 bucks or so right there to not get a decaleur at first and 
see if the straps would be enough if I ever want to go the rack/bag route. 
Could pony up for a decaleur later if I felt the straps weren't stable 
enough. Thanks Compass Cycles for that valuable and good-hearted piece of 
information.

For now, I will try the rackless bag setup and see how it goes. I hope it 
works out great. I have only a fistful of seatpost on both my bikes, and 
that makes for my Pendle saddle bag dragging on my back tire on one 
bike (53 Bleriot) and slumping over my rear fender on t'other (52 Sam). So 
a front bag sounds good to avoid that, plus I can access stuff on the go, 
and get my teardrop aeroshape going on my bikes. ha ha.

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