On Sep 29, 2009, at 9:19 AM, John McMurry wrote:

> On Sep 29, 9:46 am, Bruce <fullylug...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Weight is more a mental thing than a real physical factor for the  
>> recreational/touring rider.
>
> I disagree.  For a recreational/touring rider who may stop and start
> quite often, and doesn't push for high speeds; weight matters and is a
> real, measurable, physical factor.
>
> I'm not suggesting gram shaving a commuter at the expense of
> durability.  But if you're carrying around unnecessary extra pounds;
> they generally won't add to the enjoyment of riding a bicycle unless
> your ride is all downhill.

I don't know about that.  I have a 21 lb bike (my old race bike, with  
a heavier and more comfortable saddle than I used to use plus having  
swapped out the Campy Ergo stuff for more "sensible" components) and  
my All-Rounder which weighs in around 28 lbs with fenders, front  
rack, handlebar bag, generator and lights, 30+ year old Brooks Pro,  
etc.  My speeds on the A/R aren't any slower and I enjoy riding it  
much more on hilly or flat rides.

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