Hi everyone,

I am looking for a set of panniers, and I've been considering both a set 
from Carsick Designs and the Sackville TourSacks for my new-to-me Sam.

I've seen a few people on the list recommend the Carsick panniers, and a 
few people express mild dissatisfaction with the TourSacks.  I am wondering 
if anyone here has experience with both and can offer an informed 
comparison.  I like that the Carsick panniers are roll-top, usable 
individually, and have exterior pockets for U-lock/water bottle/fuel 
bottle, but this is just an in-theory preference: I have not owned a set of 
panniers before and don't know if those are real advantages, or if there 
are other things I should be considering.

I mostly plan to use them for camping and touring; I use a saddle bag for 
daily commuting, though I could see that changing, too.  I am especially 
curious about: 
  - relative volume and "packability"
  - permeability to the elements (rain, dust, whatever)

Any thoughts?

(Also, if anyone has a used pair of either that they're looking to offload, 
let me know!)

Thanks!

Best,
Richard

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