Anyone else cares to weigh in on this issue? I like the simplicity of
the system.

Additional question: is it easy to erase the branding on the skewer,
so as not to advertise the eventual flaw at the same time as the brand
name...? What I am worried about is the crime of opportunity, my bike
when locked up will always be locked up for short amounts of time in a
way that doesn't let it be turned upside down.
Thanks.

On Aug 16, 12:40 am, Z I <rockscissorpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for checking that out for me Ian. I felt like it would be a
> long shot that a magnet would open them up. Seems like it would be an
> obvious ploy for any professional bike thief, so they'd design against
> that. On the other hand, I suppose the pros are the ones that are
> going to get your bike regardless.
>
> I feel like I read somewhere else about someone having trouble with
> being able to twist the Zefals around. I wonder if it might be a
> tightness thing... or somehow not being able to grip the dropouts
> properly? Well, I will find out soon, I'm going to go pick some up and
> try them out.
>
> Thanks for the replies guys.
>
>   - Zach
>
> On Aug 15, 7:39 am, Ian <ian.m.whit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I had my bike on the stand today, so I decided to test out this magnet
> > trick.
>
> > Using my shop magnet (strong enough to pick up large screws & bolts
> > off the floor, or to pull a chain out of a degreaser bath), I was not
> > able to trick the Zefals into unlocking.
>
> > I'm also unable to twist them open, as Ryan was. Could be a strength
> > thing, or maybe something with the dropouts (I have them on a Surly
> > LHT). Or maybe a setup problem. Regardless, I wasn't able to open
> > them.
>
> > I'm not going to claim that they are totally thief proof. But for $30
> > they are pretty much exactly what I need. As far as I can tell,
> > they'll stop all but the most determined wheel thief and I don't have
> > to carry around a special tool -- unlike a Pitlock. Yes, I'm sure
> > there's a guy out there with a huge magnet or super strong hands who
> > can pop my wheels right off, but I can't say that I'm concerned about
> > him. Guys like him will be able to steal stuff off my bike regardless
> > of what I do.
>
> > As always, YMMV.
>
> > On Aug 13, 11:48 pm, Ryan Watson <rswat...@nyx.net> wrote:
>
> > > Didn't try magnets, but twisting them allowed me to open them right up.
> > > I could never get them set up such that they couldn't be easily opened
> > > without inverting the bike.
> > > I asked on a couple lists if anyone had been able to get them to work,
> > > but got no replies.
> > > I ended up returning them.
>
> > > Ryan
>
> > > On Aug 13, 2009, at 21:38, Z I <rockscissorpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I've been thinking about buying a set of theZefalLock n'Rolls first
> > > > for my commuter bike, and then maybe for the Atlantis (which I can
> > > > rarely make myself leave unattended, yet). So while doing a google on
> > > > them, I found someone had left a review on them at Bikeman.
>
> > > > Here's what the guy had to say: "These are already obsolete!! Twisting
> > > > is one way to defeat them, but its much easier to just use a magnet.
> > > > No twisting, they open as if they are in the unlocked position!"
> > > >http://www.bikeman.com/QR1497.html
>
> > > > That'd be a bummer! I'm having a hard time believing that theZefal
> > > > engineers would not have thought of something so simple when designing
> > > > an anti-theft device. I also can't seem to find any further
> > > > collaborating links, so I wonder if this is just hearsay...
>
> > > > TheZefalLock n' Roll skewers were discussed around the beginning of
> > > > the year, and someone asked if a magnet could trip the internal
> > > > mechanism, but the discussion moved on to the Pitlocks. Has anyone who
> > > > has them actually tried triggering the mechanism with a magnet?
>
> > > >  - Zach

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