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*Bill, I dunno how the prices worked out--could have been a drop in yen against the dollar, but more likely it was a good old fashioned Human Goofup, and we'll send you a fistful of Lip Ivo's to compensate. (Or may do better than that). We'll work it out privately. The "Your victory is not my defeat" attitude is rare and appreciated, but I am seriously mortified, no joke, and will make it good.Note from the future: Bill was thrilled with the deal, and on top of that has been forgiven for not showing up at the Entmoot!The Wisco-built 700C Hunqas don't fit the HAR, but we're working on it. The "what we thought at the time was final" design was so long ago that it was before the W-bilts. They have a diff crown and longer blades. The boss is the same distance from the crown dhoulder, but the flades are longer, which lowers the top eyes. Mark and Robert, the two guys least likely to use this rack, are nevertheless the cleverest, and have two solutions already.Also, gawdthisisnotfun, it's possible that a future version will have a hoop-mod feature that's slightly slicker than the current one---which doesn't require a hoop at all, according to Nitto. Why anyone would bolt on a hoop when it's not needed is beyond me, and in any case will likely be an add-on (not guaranteed) to the new HAR. This is independent of any hoop developed for HAR-1.Also, you know the upside down mushrooms that form the lowermost metal on the HAR (HAR-1) ? Their purpose is to make it easier and more secure to lash on a load without the HAB. They're anchor points for bungee cords or whatever strap or cord you might have. So you could use them to secure some favorite pots & pans that won't fit in the HAB. Although they're rounded, there's still a remote plausibility that over time their edges will saw slashes in the lower sleeve of the HAB, and so we have ordered some fancy rubber 'doms for them. On my own HAB I just covered them with bar tape, which is 100 percent as good, but Mark tends to think I'm a mickeymous slob when it comes to this kind of solution, and since it is his design, we have the rubbers coming. Then we'll do a search for who has ordered, and will mail them out with superb instructions (and post on web).Also, the HAR can easily be made to fit on some lower-rear eye forks, although it requires some tilting, which improves aerodynamics by transforming the upper corner into a windcheetah, like the prow of a ship in water. We don't go off half-cocked on this stuff, but it's hard to account for all contingencies. We're sure t he HARHAB 'bo is AOK on all two-eye RIV forks with the front braze-on EXCEPT the W-built 700C HUNQAs. It's BOK on most RIVforks with frontal eyelets, but requires a spacer to the rack clears the fork blade...and you're rewarded for your "I don't need no plug-n-play" efforts with microinfinitessimally improved aerodynamics. Now...back to thinking about the Clem Smith Jr. ...(we can attach files now? Good to know...)* On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 11:07:38 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > The Hub Area Rack fits best on an eyelet above the fork tip and on > mid-fork braze ons. Will it fit your bike? > > Most current Riv models have fork tips with double eyelets. If you buy a > brand new A Homer Hilsen, Hunqapillar, Cheviut, Hillborne, or Atlantis, you > are going to get double eyelet fork tips. If you buy a Roadeo or a San > Marcos, you'll get single eyelets. > > I have a Hub Area Rack, have had it for a while. It was an early > prototype that I talked them into letting me buy. For what it's worth, I > paid a fair bit more for mine that you guys are paying now, but I share > that as a reason for you to be happy, not as a reason for me to be sad. > Anyhow, now that there are bags for it, I've pulled it back out. Only now > do I realize that my old (2009) Hillborne does not have the upper eyelets > and my old (2010) Hilsen also doesn't have them. Only my Bombadil and my > Gunnar doublespeed has upper eyelets and mid fork braze ons. I wish I > could snap my fingers and have upper eyelets appear on my Hilsen and my > Hillborne so I could run this rack on those bikes as well. Oh well. > > Anyhow, as a workaround, it looks like it would be possible to run the HAR > on the lower eyelets, but it might have a tilt to it. Not the end of the > world but not ideal. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
