On 06/19/2014 10:29 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:
It ain't no chromoly. From that inexorable arbiter, Wiki:

*Reynolds 531* (pronounced 'five-three-one') is a brand name <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brand_name>, registered to Reynolds Cycle Technology <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reynolds_Cycle_Technology> of Birmingham <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham>in the United Kingdom, for a manganese–molybdenum, medium-carbon steel bicycle tubing.

Introduced in 1935 and for many years at the forefront of alloy steel <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alloy_steel> tubing technology, 531 tubing has been superseded by more complex alloys and heat-treatment/cold work cycles as Reynolds continues to compete with other manufacturers of steel for the bicycle industry.^[1] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reynolds_531#cite_note-REN-1>

The approximate alloying composition of 531 tubing is 1.5% Mn <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manganese>, 0.25% Mo <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molybdenum>, 0.35% C <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon>, and is similar to the old British BS970 En 16/18 steel (EN 16 is similar to grade BS970 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_grades> 605M36). Its mechanical properties and response to heat treatment are broadly similar to the AISI 4130 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AISI_steel_grades> standard alloy steel, also used for bicycle frames, motorcycles, as well as aviation and motor-sport.^[1] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reynolds_531#cite_note-REN-1> This material was used to form the front subframes on the Jaguar E-Type <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar_E-Type> of the 1960s.^[2] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reynolds_531#cite_note-2>


The properties of 531 are very close to those of 4130 steel, though, from what I read.

My question: what exactly is/was 531 "C", and where did it stand in the lineup from thinnest to thickest walled? My 1989 Falcon was made from this, as was that very briefly owned (the steerer cracked just above the crown) Orbit tandem. I *know* it was very light for a tandem! -- can you say "wag the dog"?


Basically, their 8/5/8, light gauge tube set. Definitely not something you'd want to build a tandem out of -- Reynolds did make a special 531 OS tandem tube set for Jack Taylor. My old Gitane Supersport tandem was made of standard gauge 531 -- based on the decal, probably the 9/6/9 "standard" tube set -- with twin external lateral diagonal tubes, and "wag the dog" doesn't begin to describe it. The only way to "pick a line" around an obstacle like a bollard was to aim right at it, and at the last moment swerve in whatever direction the bike was tending to go by itself, because if you tried to pick a specific gap and aim for it, when it hit the bumps right in front of the bollard it would surely swerve right into it.

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