Those skinny as a pencil seat stays are things of beauty! Cheers, David
"it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 5:34 AM, Ron Mc <bulldog...@gmail.com> wrote: > not exactly the venerable frames that are being discussed, but I have a > '98 Moser Forma frame, lugged except for fillet-brazed seat stays, Dedaccai > zero tre tubing (the top tube pings so pretty). This is a 4-lb. steel > frame in 64cm, and fits me like a glove. Short top tube, which I need - > I'm the guy with the gibbon-like limbs they built all those Italian cars > for. Love the bike and wouldn't trade it for a Guericotti. Built it tall > with a Pearl stem and Cinelli 64 dream bars. A big bike and 21 lbs > fighting weight. > > > <http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aP9240016.jpg> > > > > On Sunday, May 25, 2014 10:04:22 AM UTC-5, ascpgh wrote: >> >> A friend was just telling me about some conversations he was having at >> the Cirque du Cyclism the other weekend that ran along the same lines. >> >> He's had a Della Santa frame that he has held as precious for years and >> finally got it all together only to find it just not right. He went to a >> fitting and discovered that it has too long a top tube in its basic >> geometry that apparently moves him beyond the envelope of the original >> design expectation when he tried to adjust by stem extension or seat >> position/seat post options. >> >> What seems to be the thread common to Mertz, DiNucci and some of the >> other old builders present was workmanship presumed of all frames. The >> attention to detail let on that whoever filed a lug cared deeply, perhaps >> beyond the quantification of monetary value of their obsessive expense of >> time on such. Today we are able to crunch numbers so easily, to enumerate >> the exchange necessary for costs that we've moved beyond the intrinsic >> value of craftsmanship to heel to the MBAs and finance departments who seek >> parody of gain for expenses quantifiable. So perhaps today it is business >> modeling that limits the obsession able to be administered to make even a >> well designed steel frame still seem less special than one from the '60s or >> '70s, back when everything took more time and that spendthrift filing lugs >> may have been well spent while waiting for the phone to ring or the mail to >> arrive. >> >> My friend saw a very early Tom Ritchey that was made for one of those >> builder's wife which he said was breathtaking in such details. >> >> Andy Cheatham >> Pittsburgh >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
