Well, I don't know about the rando bikes since I haven't owned one, but I 
will say that my Roadeo (ligher tubing) is faster feeling and quicker 
riding than my Sam Hillborne. But, I can't load up the Roadeo for camping 
like I can the Hillborne, which is certainly the more versatile bike. I 
don't know if the Roadeo has "oversized tubing" but it is a quick feeling 
bike and livelier than my hillborne, probably because of geometry and 
tubing differences.
 
Could a rando bike be the end all be all for me?  No, I don't think so. I 
need two, one for camping and one for club riding. I don't ride Rando 
events and would feel quite limited with just a handlebar bag for when I do 
go camping/touring, and I feel it may not be quite the best pick for club 
riding. 
 
 
 

On Thursday, April 17, 2014 1:08:22 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote:

> Anyone here own a low-trail/ lightest tubing bike?
> Like the Herses and Singers and the new MAP S&P, Boulder bikes, etc.? 
>
> Do you find them really that much better performing (faster, flexier, 
> planier, efficient) than your  "oversized" steel tubing bikes, as I have 
> read about in reviews of them?
>

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