Gee...that is gorgeous. Nice colour....I have to admit those Bosco 
barscould kind of grow on you. Enjoy!
 
Ryan Fleming in Winnipeg, the land spring forgot
On Thursday, March 27, 2014 4:10:50 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote:

> A few comments, etc...
>
> on vision:  I have to say that the vision all long has been Grant and his 
> merry band who dreamt up the Appaloosa.  I rode the smallest protoype they 
> and and fell in love.  Then I rode a Hunq for the S24O in the Mt. Diablo 
> foothills and fell in love with the confidence that came from 55mm tires.  
> So my vision was just scooped up from everyone else.  The big monkey 
> wrenches I threw in were my PBH and an insistence on a top tube AND 
> diagatubes.  But I must also again give the nod to Keven, who told me to 
> stand firm on all these wishes, especially the tire size; "Grant can figure 
> it out.  Give him a challenge."
>
> On Patrick M.: I THINK the chainstays are around 55cm, so crazy long—but 
> someone at Riv should confirm.  And I don't even know what 'the signature 
> Rivendell "turn in"' is, so you'll have to elaborate.  I know that will be 
> a challenge as you are so shy to post.
>
> On Handling:  I got a great tutorial from Grant on the challenges of 
> designing a bike for a short/small person.  It's hard to do right and as a 
> result, most tend to be tippy/twitchy.  I would invite Grant to offer his 
> ideas because I'll not do it justice.  What I can say is that as a short 
> woman who's been around the block a few times, I've had my share of 
> ill-fitting, ill-handling bikes.  Not this one.  You get on and it feels 
> right, rock-solid, go anywhere, do anything, feel like it's a part of you.  
> that was instant.  I think Manny felt it too—but Manny, I'd love it if you 
> chime in too.
>
> On My cold:  finally improving.
>
> On seeing it up close:  Folks passing through the Twin Cities are welcome 
> to contact me to see the bike; just contact me off-list.  And yes, I'm on 
> cloud nine and speechless, and expect to be riding it when I'm 80!  (By 
> then, I might be regretting my insistence on a top-tube!)
>
> On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 6:18:25 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: 
>>
>>   I forgot to add that the bike has one of the prettiest forks I've seen 
>> -- perfect bend and taper.
>>
>> How long are the chainstays? What does this do to the handling? you 
>> mention the stability, and I seem to recall Mark taking an earlier 
>> long-stayed prototype on the Mt. Diablo dirt climb and finding the bike did 
>> very well, but what about the signature Rivendell "turn in"?
>>
>> I'd be interested to learn how the bike handles, that is to say: what are 
>> its handling qualities, and how the design factors contribute to them. (I 
>> realize that this may require a collaborative sort of response from the 
>> list.)
>>
>> Interesting: used to be that 42.5 cm chainstays were long; that was the 
>> length of the original All Rounder's stays and of my first custom's, and 
>> IIRC, those of the '92 XO-1 and of Riv's early roads. Now I take 44- 45 as 
>> normal -- all the recent bikes I've owned have had stays of this length: 
>> the '99 and the '03, the Fargo, the Monocog 29er, and the old Herse. (Well, 
>> the Ken Rogers had very short chainstays -- the rear wheel almost or 
>> perhaps actually overlapped the seat tube -- but that was a trike.)
>>
>

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