Franklyn,

look here 
http://ruedatropical.wordpress.com/2009/01/11/mafac-dia-compe-paul-centerpull-brake-specs/
all the competitions that were made should fit with a reach of 52, i'm
not shure which version is being sold.

Gunnar

On Aug 25, 4:02 pm, franklyn <frankly...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Gunnar,
>
> Do you know the brake reach of these Competition brakes?
>
> Franklyn
>
> On Aug 25, 4:55 am, gunnara <gunn...@gmx.de> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Franklyn,
>
> > how about 
> > thesehttp://cgi.ebay.com/Mafac-Competition-Brakes-NOS-Pair-Front-Rear-Brak...
> > or racers in the small version? Availabilty for the shorter mafacs,
> > that you need, is better as for the longer versions you need for 650b.
>
> > Gunnar.
>
> > On Aug 24, 8:46 pm, franklyn <frankly...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Michael,
>
> > > thanks for the advice, that's helpful. The paul racers reach range is
> > > 57mm and larger, and her bike's front brake reach is 52mm, so the
> > > racers won't work. I know for sure that there was one prototype Paul
> > > made for Rivendell that had shorter reach (i have pictures from a
> > > previous owner to prove it). If someone on this list happens to own
> > > that and want to part with, i would be happy to pay good money for it.
>
> > > Franklyn
>
> > > On Aug 24, 11:25 am, MichaelH <mhech...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Yes Franklyn, you make perfect sense to me.
>
> > > > Many of us have read GP's thoughts on placing the brake hole, and his
> > > > belief that a lower hole extends brake clearance.  For single pivot
> > > > brakes this is completely true because the brake arms stay at or above
> > > > the pivot/bolt.  But dual pivot brakes, as you have discovered, slope
> > > > down from the hole, and, if the hole is set low, as GP recommends, the
> > > > brake will be below the fork crown, crowding fenders and tires.
>
> > > >  My wife, Patricia, runs Pasella speedblends (32mm actual, 35 mm
> > > > stated) under Esge fenders and Suntour Superbe single pivot brakes on
> > > > a 1983 Specialized Sequoia.  I have run both Campy Grand Sport Single
> > > > pivot and Ultegra dual pivot on my Rambouillet with Honjo fenders.
> > > > The Ultegra work but the Campy GS offer better clearance and do not
> > > > contact the fenders. The Campy's are actually 59mm brakes so they give
> > > > more than the standard 57mm.  DP brakes have a lighter action than SP.
>
> > > > I know that many people have found single pivot hard to live with, but
> > > > that has not been my experience.  Centering SP. brakes requires a 13mm
> > > > offset cone wrench, but once you have that it's pretty simple.  The
> > > > brakes don't come out of alignment, but like DP, they get knocked
> > > > out.  I carry the cone wrench with me for the Campy's but the Suntours
> > > > stay aligned so well that I don't bother, unless the bike is likely to
> > > > be stuffed into our car.
>
> > > > Bottom line, if you want to maximize brake reach, keep an eye on ebay
> > > > for a set of late-mid '80s single pivot brakes and buy a 13 mm offset
> > > > cone wrench from Park.  Maybe some on this list has a pair they would
> > > > part, but I don't.
>
> > > > Of course there's always the center pull option.  If she has a
> > > > birthday coming up maybe someone will spring for a set of Paul's for
> > > > your wife!
>
> > > > peace; keep the rubber side down & the sunny side up,
> > > > michael
>
> > > > On Aug 24, 12:53 pm, franklyn <frankly...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Hi, group,
>
> > > > > I just installed a set of tektro R538 "big mouth 57" brake calipers on
> > > > > my wife's Ebisu which should take 700x28C tires with fenders. However,
> > > > > because the bottom of the caliper arms stick out below the brake bolt
> > > > > quite a bit to further limit the tire clearance. Currently the bike
> > > > > has 700x28c pasela tg tires on (which actually measures 25.5mm on
> > > > > Mavic Open pro rims) and I doubt I can even put 35mm fenders on!
>
> > > > > I know the benefit of these "big mouth" brakes is that it opens wide
> > > > > enough for wide tires to come off without deflating, but are there
> > > > > other long (47-57mm) long reach brakes that have caliper arms sticking
> > > > > down less beyond the brake bolt?
>
> > > > > Does this make sense to anyone?
>
> > > > > thanks,
> > > > > franklyn
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