Franklyn,

how about these
http://cgi.ebay.com/Mafac-Competition-Brakes-NOS-Pair-Front-Rear-Brakeset_W0QQitemZ380151450303QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5882cacabf&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116#ht_861wt_843
or racers in the small version? Availabilty for the shorter mafacs,
that you need, is better as for the longer versions you need for 650b.

Gunnar.


On Aug 24, 8:46 pm, franklyn <frankly...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Michael,
>
> thanks for the advice, that's helpful. The paul racers reach range is
> 57mm and larger, and her bike's front brake reach is 52mm, so the
> racers won't work. I know for sure that there was one prototype Paul
> made for Rivendell that had shorter reach (i have pictures from a
> previous owner to prove it). If someone on this list happens to own
> that and want to part with, i would be happy to pay good money for it.
>
> Franklyn
>
> On Aug 24, 11:25 am, MichaelH <mhech...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Yes Franklyn, you make perfect sense to me.
>
> > Many of us have read GP's thoughts on placing the brake hole, and his
> > belief that a lower hole extends brake clearance.  For single pivot
> > brakes this is completely true because the brake arms stay at or above
> > the pivot/bolt.  But dual pivot brakes, as you have discovered, slope
> > down from the hole, and, if the hole is set low, as GP recommends, the
> > brake will be below the fork crown, crowding fenders and tires.
>
> >  My wife, Patricia, runs Pasella speedblends (32mm actual, 35 mm
> > stated) under Esge fenders and Suntour Superbe single pivot brakes on
> > a 1983 Specialized Sequoia.  I have run both Campy Grand Sport Single
> > pivot and Ultegra dual pivot on my Rambouillet with Honjo fenders.
> > The Ultegra work but the Campy GS offer better clearance and do not
> > contact the fenders. The Campy's are actually 59mm brakes so they give
> > more than the standard 57mm.  DP brakes have a lighter action than SP.
>
> > I know that many people have found single pivot hard to live with, but
> > that has not been my experience.  Centering SP. brakes requires a 13mm
> > offset cone wrench, but once you have that it's pretty simple.  The
> > brakes don't come out of alignment, but like DP, they get knocked
> > out.  I carry the cone wrench with me for the Campy's but the Suntours
> > stay aligned so well that I don't bother, unless the bike is likely to
> > be stuffed into our car.
>
> > Bottom line, if you want to maximize brake reach, keep an eye on ebay
> > for a set of late-mid '80s single pivot brakes and buy a 13 mm offset
> > cone wrench from Park.  Maybe some on this list has a pair they would
> > part, but I don't.
>
> > Of course there's always the center pull option.  If she has a
> > birthday coming up maybe someone will spring for a set of Paul's for
> > your wife!
>
> > peace; keep the rubber side down & the sunny side up,
> > michael
>
> > On Aug 24, 12:53 pm, franklyn <frankly...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Hi, group,
>
> > > I just installed a set of tektro R538 "big mouth 57" brake calipers on
> > > my wife's Ebisu which should take 700x28C tires with fenders. However,
> > > because the bottom of the caliper arms stick out below the brake bolt
> > > quite a bit to further limit the tire clearance. Currently the bike
> > > has 700x28c pasela tg tires on (which actually measures 25.5mm on
> > > Mavic Open pro rims) and I doubt I can even put 35mm fenders on!
>
> > > I know the benefit of these "big mouth" brakes is that it opens wide
> > > enough for wide tires to come off without deflating, but are there
> > > other long (47-57mm) long reach brakes that have caliper arms sticking
> > > down less beyond the brake bolt?
>
> > > Does this make sense to anyone?
>
> > > thanks,
> > > franklyn
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