I guess I was being a bit provocative. You're probably right and any well built steel frame will do pretty well in most urban environments. But here's what I think about: I ride my bike for transportation everyday in New York City. I lean it up against poles; I lock it on the street; people knock it over; I carry it up my stairs where it gets banged a bit; I have to carry it through two annoying springloaded swinging doors every time I enter my building. I don't have a ding or a dent in the Atlantis but I won't be surprised if I get one one day. Don't get me wrong, I take precious care of my bike, but I mean for it to be ridden and I live in a pretty rough place to ride a bike. Also, no matter how skilled or light a rider you are, you're going to hit some holes hard when riding around NYC. If you try to go around them you'll get run over and and I'm just not skilled enough to hop them with a 7 pound chain in a rear basket (or without the chain for that matter). So is the Atlantis overbuilt for that use? I dunno. But I do feel like it's more likely to still be doing that same thing 25 years from now than some other well built steel bikes. So I agree, it's probably overbuilt for club rides, but I don't think its overbuilt for me to do long rides out of the city or laps around the park because I'm not racing or even trying to keep up with anyone. I do have a lighter bike that I use for the laps and thats a nice luxury. But for commuting where I commute I just don't think its overbuilt. The 1.5 inch tires soak up the bumps with room to spare, plus the more upright position let's me see what going on around me. And when I want to go to the grocery store and load up a basket and backpack full of groceries I don't think twice about it. All on the same bike! I'm sure a Sam Hilborne or a Cross Check or an old steel bike would do fine, but the Atlantis is close to what I think of as perfect for this type of riding.
Actually, as I read over this, here's my vote for the next riv bike after the Roadeo. How about the Riv Urban bike? In fact, I've always been a bit resentful of the terms "Country Bike." Why is a sturdy bike with biggish wheels and fenders supposed to be ridden in the country?? On Jul 10, 10:16 am, Patrick in VT <psh...@drm.com> wrote: > On Jul 10, 8:43 am, JGS <jonat...@jonfipro.com> wrote: > > > And it's sturdy enough to be real urban city > > bike which is unusual amongst these all-around bikes.< > > how so? i think every bike Riv offers is "sturdy." as far as "real > urban city" riding (??) is concerned, i'd be more concerned with a > strong wheelset - every frame riv offers is bomber. > > anyway, the Atlantis is a touring rig - yes, i know, it can do more > than that. but, if you're using an Atlantis on a club ride or > commuting with a light or even medium load, then you're riding a bike > that's overbuilt. > > please read that for what it is. i'm not saying that you can't do it > - only that it's overbuilt for those purposes. > > hence the reason for an offering like the Roadeo - which is very > exciting. can't wait to see it! --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---