Not an answer to your specific question, but I have some recent
experience relating to non-intuitive top-tube length issues. A few
months ago I picked up my long-awaited Curt Goodrich fat-tire touring
frame. When discussing geometry with Curt, I asked him to make it like
my 58 Atlantis, but maybe a tiny bit shorter in the TT. When I
inspected the new frame, I was surprised that the TT was actually
about 1-1.5 cm LONGER than on my Atlantis. But, for whatever reason,
it works, and is very comfortable. Probably has something to do with
shallower seat and head angles. I've even been toying with the idea of
trying a longer stem (1-1/8 threadless, so it's easy to experiment),
but I doubt I'll get around to it anytime soon.

I've come to agree with some of Grant's published opinions that TT
length isn't that important, and has to be considered in the context
of frame angles, rider fitness, riding style, stem/handlebar choice,
etc. Simply comparing TT lengths isn't a productive way to evaluate
the suitability of one frame vs another.

Semi-related: In our shop, we often see people sliding saddles forward
to reduce the reach to the bars (simulates a shorter TT by increasing
the effective seat tube angle). Curiously, this practice often makes
the problem worse, because of the way it changes rider weight
distribution. Often, the stresses on hands, backs, etc, are mitigated
by sliding the saddle backwards, thereby simulating an even longer
TT.


On May 13, 9:19 pm, dpco <dcompton1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> to grant,
> why is the toptube on a 58cm saluki .5cm longer than a 60cm ram?
> don c.
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